Are you aware of the kits that the Braille Institute has put together for some of their books? I haven't been following this lately but thought it was a great idea. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 1:26 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Describing Pictures In Children's Books
yep, exactly right. usually we have a print copy from the library, or in some cases, a box of"pass around" objects to illustrate the story in tactile and some times reallife items. Smile.One of the books in the collection "A Chesapeake Bay Walk" I used with a box of oyster shells, crabs, seals, crabs, bald eagle statues and some sand dirtand salt water to bring it to life, smile. it was a lot of fun! Shelley L. Rhodes M.A., VRT, CTVI and Guinevere, Golden lady Guide juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc. Graduate Alumni Association Board www.guidedogs.com More than Any other time, When I hold a beloved book in my hand, my limitations fall from me, my spirit is free. - Helen Keller----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill O'Connell" <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 11:02 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Describing Pictures In Children's Books I take it that when you use those books, the children have a braille-print copy or just a print copy with pictures depending on the situation?----- Original Message ----- From: "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 3:09 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Describing Pictures In Children's BooksI use the books in my teaching. One of the things that young children learnto do is draw conclusions from the pictures they see. As a blind teacher,if I can ask the students, "what do you see, do you see, that say Aurthor is going into the Girls room" then the students can draw conclusions. That is what I use the books for, or to share in a read a loud with my students or my niece. A lot of the kids love being the print book page turner, smile. so it works. I like the descriptions and am happy when the people include them. Shelley L. Rhodes M.A., VRT, CTVI and Guinevere, Golden lady Guide juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc. Graduate Alumni Association Board www.guidedogs.com More than Any other time, When i hold a beloved book in my hand, my limitations fall from me, my spirit is free. - Helen Keller----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill O'Connell" <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 7:45 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Describing Pictures In Children's Books For what it's worth, I think books for very young children would have to beread by blind parents because the books would be in grade II braille and Idon't think little ones would appreciate reading in synthetic speech. And if I'm right, I don't think really young children who are sighted would appreciate a book without pictures, even if there were written descriptions, and I doubt if they were blind the written descriptions pictures would mean much to them. I know this sounds negative and it is why I have never been enthusiastic about children's books where pictures are so important. I know of at least two sources where books have both braille, print and the pictures with their descriptions which I consider to be far more appropriate for young children. Bookshare doesn't need to try to fill every niche in my opinion. I'm expecting a lot of opposition to this opinion, however.----- Original Message ----- From: Jamie Yates, CPhTTo: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 3:07 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Describing Pictures In Children's Books And sometimes, too, Cindy, you don't know a person's ethnicity just from their color. Not all people who are black are "African-American". I ask myself the same questions all of the time when I have a children's book, Cindy. I could easily spend more time describing pictures thanscanning or proofing the rest of the book. How much is enough? How much istoo much? I don't think I've ever stated the color of the people in a picture before because I usually feel like it's not important. But Ann (I think it was Ann) made a good point about that being important information. And Lissi made a good point about the descriptions being at the same reading level as the book. I've never considered that before. Jamie in Michigan Currently Reading - Shattered Dreams: My Life as a Polygamist's Wife by Irene Spencer With Skype you can make free calls over the Internet. Skype - the whole world can talk for free ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.30/1126 - Release Date: 11/12/2007 12:56 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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