[bksvol-discuss] Re: Describing Pictures In Children's Books

  • From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:17:15 -0600

Hi Monica,

I agree with you on this.  Jill said that the books would be in Grade II 
Braille.  However, a parent or teacher coould download the Daisy books and 
select a HTML format, which would not be in Grade II.

Also, I agree with what you said in a previous message about a blind parent 
reading to their sighted child.  I raised two sighted boys, and at that time 
there weren't many books with the print and Braille.  I got Braille books 
for young children, and we enjoyed our story time.  Some books I had to read 
over and over to them.

Sue S.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Monica Willyard
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 5:15 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Describing Pictures In Children's Books


Hi, Jill. I agree that very young children would have trouble reading for 
themselves. I should have been more clear on what I'm working on. I'm 
working on books meant for first, second, and third grade readers who may 
have access to Bookshare due to the new education grant. Braille literacy is 
so important, and I want our young readers to have high-quality copies of 
books to read that will help them practice their reading skills. Their 
teachers and/or parents could help them download the books, and I'm told 
that many schools provide Pacmates and BrailleNotes to young students in 
resource rooms and such. My group of girls is focusing on books from the 
Accellerated Reading lists which are divided up into grade levels. Students 
are often given a choice of reading several books from a certain grade 
level. I want our Bookshare students to have as much choice as sighted kids 
do. I don't really know how many kids will actually use these books. I'd 
like them to be there though so we can let teachers know that Bookshare can 
help students of all ages.

Monica Willyard

Jill O'Connell wrote:
  For what it's worth, I think books for very young children would have to 
be read by blind parents because the books would be in grade II braille and 
I don't think little ones would appreciate reading in synthetic speech. And 
if I'm right, I don't think really young children who are sighted would 
appreciate a book without pictures, even if there were written descriptions, 
and I doubt if they were blind the written descriptions pictures would mean 
much to them. I know this sounds negative and it is why I have never been 
enthusiastic about children's books where pictures are so important. I know 
of at least two sources where books have both braille, print and the 
pictures with their descriptions which I consider to be far more appropriate 
for young children. Bookshare doesn't need to try to fill every niche in my 
opinion. I'm expecting a lot of opposition to this opinion, however.
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Jamie Yates, CPhT
    To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 3:07 PM
    Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Describing Pictures In Children's Books


    And sometimes, too, Cindy, you don't know a person's ethnicity just from 
their color. Not all people who are black are "African-American".

    I ask myself the same questions all of the time when I have a children's 
book, Cindy. I could easily spend more time describing pictures than 
scanning or proofing the rest of the book. How much is enough? How much is 
too much? I don't think I've ever stated the color of the people in a 
picture before because I usually feel like it's not important. But Ann (I 
think it was Ann) made a good point about that being important information.

    And Lissi made a good point about the descriptions being at the same 
reading level as the book. I've never considered that before.


    Jamie in Michigan
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