[badgerstatevolunteers] Re: Field op SOP
- From: Nathan C Golding <goldingn@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: badgerstatevolunteers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:39:37 -0500 (CDT)
Well I am at my parents house for spring break in Manitowoc so I don't think
that will work this meeting because you are in Madison area (I think) but for
any other meeting yeah I would be willing to carpool.
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From: "lomax" <chac2ook@xxxxxxxxx>
To: badgerstatevolunteers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 12:29:31 PM
Subject: [badgerstatevolunteers] Re: Field op SOP
@ Boy Scout.....want to car pool for the meet?
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 10:26 AM, < xcopdaddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx > wrote:
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Time??
I'm training till at least 4:00.
On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:16:27 -0500 kevin Joyner
< joynerkev@xxxxxxxxx > wrote:
>Just talked to her. Still working out the details but Sunday
>seems to be
>the better consensus so far.
>
>On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 8:00 PM, lomax < chac2ook@xxxxxxxxx > wrote:
>
>> Actually WW, I think we've moved the meeting to Sunday, I'd
>check w/
>> Kaje......$15.00....sounds like a feast to me!!!! LOL
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Wonder Woman
>< wonder10woman@xxxxxxxxx >wrote:
>>
>>> The next meeting is gonna be at my pad! Saturday the 19th,
>but I don't
>>> know what time. Suggestions? I'll try to have a few snacks
>unless you guys
>>> want somethin else like ordering pizza or something. $15 at the
>door, and
>>> provide presents for the host! well, it was worth a shot.
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* kevin Joyner < joynerkev@xxxxxxxxx >
>>> *To:* badgerstatevolunteers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> *Cc:* Joe SPIKE < virtualadonis@xxxxxxxxxxx >
>>> *Sent:* Fri, March 11, 2011 7:06:21 PM
>>>
>>> *Subject:* [badgerstatevolunteers] Re: Field op SOP
>>>
>>> Okay I'll bite even though I'm not much for nit pickers.
>>> Who decided?
>>> I really hate going into this because it really sounds like me
>bragging on
>>> myself. And in all honesty I shouldn't have to justify myself
>to you. But
>>> for the sake of argument let's do it. When I came across this
>group on Wram
>>> they still hadn't gotten past being on Wram. I was the one who
>said let's
>>> get together and do something and set up the face to face. I
>was the one
>>> who said let's stop talking and let's start doing.
>>> The reason I am doing it is because I am the one who stepped up
>to the
>>> challenge to do it! Since that time I have constantly offered
>opportunity
>>> for others to step up and do the same.
>>> Why did I not call you?
>>> Because it is not my job or anyone elses to call you to see how
>far you
>>> can travel. I haven't asked Lomax who lives in Madison nor
>have I asked
>>> Jemma who lives in Sheboygan. Nor will I or anyone else.
>>> The sites and passwords are handled and there is a backup
>person(s). You
>>> are not one of them, deal with it!
>>> Spike here is the bottom line since you want to do some calling
>out. You
>>> are a student in this group. Until you can learn to survive,
>take direction
>>> and become an educator in this group then that is what you are
>period! You
>>> do not have the skills to take care of yourself and don't tell
>me you do
>>> because I've seen first hand that you do not! If you do have
>those skills
>>> then you most certainly have not proven it.
>>> So don't sit back and try to call me out when I've put heart,
>soul, money,
>>> and more time than I can count into this while your
>contribution has
>>> consisted of baseless opinions and incorrect assumptions. Now
>I'm done with
>>> this pissing contest!
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Joe SPIKE
>< virtualadonis@xxxxxxxxxxx >wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not everyone has to be at the meetings if we do it right
>folks. kevin at
>>>> the meetings we give you ideas on how to solve this problem
>and even take
>>>> some of the load. How can we do this if we did not know you
>are the one
>>>> doing the job (a potato if I ever saw one)? Also who decided
>you should be
>>>> the one wroking on this? You have not called me to ask when I
>am available
>>>> or how far I can travel. Who have you called? What is your
>plan of action?
>>>> If you die in a car accident or have to leave town who will
>continue your
>>>> work that we did not even know you were doing?
>>>>
>>>> SINCERELY
>>>> JOE WELSH
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 17:54:36 -0600
>>>>
>>>> Subject: [badgerstatevolunteers] Re: Field op SOP
>>>> From: joynerkev@xxxxxxxxx
>>>> To: badgerstatevolunteers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> CC: xcopdaddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Right! I'm trying to work this next meeting so that as many
>as possible
>>>> can come. Unfortunately it isn't always going to be the case.
> If we try to
>>>> solve every problem with meetings and the consensus of
>everyone then we are
>>>> not going to get much done.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 5:49 PM, < xcopdaddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx >
>wrote:
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>>>> You'll be hard pressed get everyone present at anything.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe at least 10 or so of us?
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 15:57:55 -0600 Shawn Wilkerson
>>>> < tatz1977@xxxxxxxxx > wrote:
>>>> >with all present ...
>>>> >
>>>> >--- On Fri, 3/11/11, lomax < chac2ook@xxxxxxxxx > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >From: lomax < chac2ook@xxxxxxxxx >
>>>> >Subject: [badgerstatevolunteers] Re: Field op SOP
>>>> >To: badgerstatevolunteers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >Date: Friday, March 11, 2011, 3:56 PM
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >we should probably talk it over at a meet before we set it in
>>>> >stone
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 3:55 PM, lomax < chac2ook@xxxxxxxxx >
>wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >We've talked more the last 2 days than we ever have....this
>is
>>>> >great.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Shawn Wilkerson
>>>> >< tatz1977@xxxxxxxxx > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >up to a point . yes
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >--- On Fri, 3/11/11, Joe < virtualadonis@xxxxxxxxxxx > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >From: Joe < virtualadonis@xxxxxxxxxxx >
>>>> >
>>>> >Subject: [badgerstatevolunteers] Re: Field op SOP
>>>> >To: badgerstatevolunteers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >Date: Friday, March 11, 2011, 3:51 PM
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >Yes structure!
>>>> >SPIKE
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >From: kevin Joyner
>>>> >Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 3:35 PM
>>>> >To: badgerstatevolunteers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >Cc: Joe
>>>> >Subject: [badgerstatevolunteers] Re: Field op SOP
>>>> >
>>>> >What is their to agree or disagree with in the SOP? This is
>the
>>>> >need for structure that is getting handled.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Joe
>< virtualadonis@xxxxxxxxxxx >
>>>> >wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >All this is good stuff. However not everyone is reading or
>paying
>>>> >attention to this. All of this should be discussed in a
>meeting
>>>> >and what is agreed on then put out to the people. Thus the
>need
>>>> >for structure we will all be on the same page.
>>>> >SPIKE
>>>> >
>>>> >-----Original Message----- From: xcopdaddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 2:52 PM
>>>> >To: badgerstatevolunteers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >Subject: [badgerstatevolunteers] Field op SOP
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
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>>>> >We had a few problems last time
>>>> >
>>>> >Nuttin big
>>>> >
>>>> >Field training op SOP:
>>>> >
>>>> >All those participating should bring FULL BOB and line gear
>to all
>>>> >field ops unless otherwise instructed. To include minimum
>field
>>>> >gear (See WRAM posted gear list). Firearm and target ammo.
>>>> >Clothing
>>>> >appropriate to conditions. Head gear, body armor, load carry
>>>> >equipment, field knife ect. Not all items will always be
>used,
>>>> >but
>>>> >this will prevent people missing out on training because they
>>>> >didn't bring gear.
>>>> >
>>>> >Comms: 1 radio (of the agreed style and system) per 2
>persons
>>>> >should be brought to all outdoor operations. Radios should
>be
>>>> >charged and in working order.
>>>> >
>>>> >Medic: EVERYONE shall bring a personal first aid kit. At
>least 2
>>>> >"squad" level 1st aid kits should be present. 1 carried by
>the
>>>> >designated medic. 1 as a backup.
>>>> >
>>>> >Procedure:
>>>> >Personnel shall meet at agreed time in agreed muster point.
>>>> >Head count shall be taken and radios/ medical equipment/
>other
>>>> >equipment handed out as needed.
>>>> >
>>>> >Movement to training area should be done as an organized
>march,
>>>> >Either as a file (esp if in public view) or in wedge patrol
>>>> >formation.
>>>> >
>>>> >When training area is reached group shall fan out and sweep
>area
>>>> >and set up 360 security before conducting training.
>>>> >
>>>> >NON group movement should be done in buddy teams for safety
>and
>>>> >tactical reasons. No one should ever go anywhere alone.
>>>> >
>>>> >Training block: Training should be laid out in advance if
>>>> >particular equipment is required. Rappelling gear, tools,
>camp
>>>> >gear, flash lights, paintball guns etc.
>>>> >
>>>> >Training blocks should be organized in a "crawl" basic info
>"walk"
>>>> >very basic practice "run" full speed blocks for safety and
>ease of
>>>> >under standing. ABOVE all safety should be a top priority of
>all
>>>> >training.
>>>> >
>>>> >NO illegal activities should ever be advocated by training.
>>>> >
>>>> >Instruction should be conducted without interruption for
>>>> >efficiency, instructors should however pause as often as is
>>>> >practical, to allow for questions.
>>>> >
>>>> >At each field training op it would be optimal to conduct 3
>blocks
>>>> >of training. Each block should, be integrally related to one
>>>> >another if at all possible.
>>>> >
>>>> >Security: For practice at field exercises during instruction
>2
>>>> >members should be providing simulated over watch. This
>should
>>>> >rotate, through buddy teams in blocks of time evenly
>distributed
>>>> >through the buddy teams. Unless other wise designated.
>>>> >
>>>> >Breaks:
>>>> >for water/ bathroom/ ect should be offered approx every hour.
> Mid
>>>> >day a field kitchen should be set up in some manner and field
>>>> >cooking/ mess should be conducted in "bug out mode" if at all
>>>> >possible. Attention should be paid to not giving away
>location by
>>>> >noise, smoke, waste ect while cooking if at all possible.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >At conclusion of training block personnel should discuss
>training
>>>> >and relevant issues to the general group, but security should
>be
>>>> >continued through the duration of the operation for training
>>>> >purposes. Location sec should also be attempted to be kept
>>>> >through
>>>> >noise, light, smoke discipline whenever possible.
>>>> >
>>>> >close of training:
>>>> >The area should be policed for any and all garbage or items
>that
>>>> >would violate OPSEC. Extraction and egress from training area
>>>> >should follow the same procedures as entry.
>>>> >
>>>> >Borrowed equipment should be returned to owner or to group
>supply.
>>>> >LACE (Liquid Ammo Casualty Equipment) report should be
>verbally
>>>> >taken for future reference as to set up parameters of supply
>>>> >needs,
>>>> >individual hazards equipment needs ans the like.
>>>> >
>>>> >Head count should again be taken before dismissal of
>personnel.
>>>> >
>>>> >AAR: At least 1 after action report should be generated for
>each
>>>> >Field training operation by at least 1 designated participant
>and
>>>> >any other person who wishes to write one. Basic summary of
>the
>>>> >activities, problems encountered, solutions found, any other
>>>> >events
>>>> >of significance should be noted. 3 things to sustain and 3
>things
>>>> >to improve should be submitted. The report(s)should be
>reviewed
>>>> >at
>>>> >the next planning meeting (non field meeting). Format should
>>>> >follow previous ex if possible.
>>>> >
>>>> >Discuss adjust as yall wish.
>>>> >
>>>> >That's what i can come up with with a sleeping baby on me.
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>>>> >--
>>>> >--
>>>> >Kevin J
>>>> >====================
>>>> >“Far Better it is to Dare Mighty Things than to take rank
>with
>>>> >those poor, timid spirits Who know Neither Victory nor
>Defeat.”
>>>> >Theodore Roosevelt
>>>> >
>>>> >"I was not delivered unto this world in defeat,
>>>> >nor does failure course in my veins. I am not a
>>>> >sheep waiting to be prodded by my shepherd. I
>>>> >am a lion and I refuse to talk, to walk, to sleep
>>>> >with the sheep. I will hear not those who weep
>>>> >and complain, for their disease is contagious. Let
>>>> >them join the sheep. The slaughterhouse of failure
>>>> >is not my destiny.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >--
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >freeman lomax
>>>> > www.1revolutionnow.com
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >--
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>>>> >
>>>> >freeman lomax
>>>> > www.1revolutionnow.com
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>>>> --
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>>>> Kevin J
>>>> ====================
>>>> “Far Better it is to Dare Mighty Things than to take rank with
>those
>>>> poor, timid spirits Who know Neither Victory nor Defeat.”
>>>> Theodore Roosevelt
>>>>
>>>> "I was not delivered unto this world in defeat,
>>>> nor does failure course in my veins. I am not a
>>>> sheep waiting to be prodded by my shepherd. I
>>>> am a lion and I refuse to talk, to walk, to sleep
>>>> with the sheep. I will hear not those who weep
>>>> and complain, for their disease is contagious. Let
>>>> them join the sheep. The slaughterhouse of failure
>>>> is not my destiny.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> Kevin J
>>> ====================
>>> “Far Better it is to Dare Mighty Things than to take rank with
>those poor,
>>> timid spirits Who know Neither Victory nor Defeat.”
>>> Theodore Roosevelt
>>>
>>> "I was not delivered unto this world in defeat,
>>> nor does failure course in my veins. I am not a
>>> sheep waiting to be prodded by my shepherd. I
>>> am a lion and I refuse to talk, to walk, to sleep
>>> with the sheep. I will hear not those who weep
>>> and complain, for their disease is contagious. Let
>>> them join the sheep. The slaughterhouse of failure
>>> is not my destiny.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> **
>> *freeman lomax*
>> * www.1revolutionnow.com *
>>
>>
>
>
>--
>--
>Kevin J
>====================
>“Far Better it is to Dare Mighty Things than to take rank with
>those poor,
>timid spirits Who know Neither Victory nor Defeat.”
>Theodore Roosevelt
>
>"I was not delivered unto this world in defeat,
>nor does failure course in my veins. I am not a
>sheep waiting to be prodded by my shepherd. I
>am a lion and I refuse to talk, to walk, to sleep
>with the sheep. I will hear not those who weep
>and complain, for their disease is contagious. Let
>them join the sheep. The slaughterhouse of failure
>is not my destiny.
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