[badgerstatevolunteers] Re: Field op SOP
- From: lomax <chac2ook@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: badgerstatevolunteers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:29:31 -0500
@ Boy Scout.....want to car pool for the meet?
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 10:26 AM, <xcopdaddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Time??
>
> I'm training till at least 4:00.
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> On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:16:27 -0500 kevin Joyner
> <joynerkev@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >Just talked to her. Still working out the details but Sunday
> >seems to be
> >the better consensus so far.
> >
> >On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 8:00 PM, lomax <chac2ook@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> Actually WW, I think we've moved the meeting to Sunday, I'd
> >check w/
> >> Kaje......$15.00....sounds like a feast to me!!!! LOL
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Wonder Woman
> ><wonder10woman@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> >>
> >>> The next meeting is gonna be at my pad! Saturday the 19th,
> >but I don't
> >>> know what time. Suggestions? I'll try to have a few snacks
> >unless you guys
> >>> want somethin else like ordering pizza or something. $15 at the
> >door, and
> >>> provide presents for the host! well, it was worth a shot.
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>> *From:* kevin Joyner <joynerkev@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>> *To:* badgerstatevolunteers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> *Cc:* Joe SPIKE <virtualadonis@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> *Sent:* Fri, March 11, 2011 7:06:21 PM
> >>>
> >>> *Subject:* [badgerstatevolunteers] Re: Field op SOP
> >>>
> >>> Okay I'll bite even though I'm not much for nit pickers.
> >>> Who decided?
> >>> I really hate going into this because it really sounds like me
> >bragging on
> >>> myself. And in all honesty I shouldn't have to justify myself
> >to you. But
> >>> for the sake of argument let's do it. When I came across this
> >group on Wram
> >>> they still hadn't gotten past being on Wram. I was the one who
> >said let's
> >>> get together and do something and set up the face to face. I
> >was the one
> >>> who said let's stop talking and let's start doing.
> >>> The reason I am doing it is because I am the one who stepped up
> >to the
> >>> challenge to do it! Since that time I have constantly offered
> >opportunity
> >>> for others to step up and do the same.
> >>> Why did I not call you?
> >>> Because it is not my job or anyone elses to call you to see how
> >far you
> >>> can travel. I haven't asked Lomax who lives in Madison nor
> >have I asked
> >>> Jemma who lives in Sheboygan. Nor will I or anyone else.
> >>> The sites and passwords are handled and there is a backup
> >person(s). You
> >>> are not one of them, deal with it!
> >>> Spike here is the bottom line since you want to do some calling
> >out. You
> >>> are a student in this group. Until you can learn to survive,
> >take direction
> >>> and become an educator in this group then that is what you are
> >period! You
> >>> do not have the skills to take care of yourself and don't tell
> >me you do
> >>> because I've seen first hand that you do not! If you do have
> >those skills
> >>> then you most certainly have not proven it.
> >>> So don't sit back and try to call me out when I've put heart,
> >soul, money,
> >>> and more time than I can count into this while your
> >contribution has
> >>> consisted of baseless opinions and incorrect assumptions. Now
> >I'm done with
> >>> this pissing contest!
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Joe SPIKE
> ><virtualadonis@xxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Not everyone has to be at the meetings if we do it right
> >folks. kevin at
> >>>> the meetings we give you ideas on how to solve this problem
> >and even take
> >>>> some of the load. How can we do this if we did not know you
> >are the one
> >>>> doing the job (a potato if I ever saw one)? Also who decided
> >you should be
> >>>> the one wroking on this? You have not called me to ask when I
> >am available
> >>>> or how far I can travel. Who have you called? What is your
> >plan of action?
> >>>> If you die in a car accident or have to leave town who will
> >continue your
> >>>> work that we did not even know you were doing?
> >>>>
> >>>> SINCERELY
> >>>> JOE WELSH
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ------------------------------
> >>>> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 17:54:36 -0600
> >>>>
> >>>> Subject: [badgerstatevolunteers] Re: Field op SOP
> >>>> From: joynerkev@xxxxxxxxx
> >>>> To: badgerstatevolunteers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> CC: xcopdaddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Right! I'm trying to work this next meeting so that as many
> >as possible
> >>>> can come. Unfortunately it isn't always going to be the case.
> > If we try to
> >>>> solve every problem with meetings and the consensus of
> >everyone then we are
> >>>> not going to get much done.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 5:49 PM, <xcopdaddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >wrote:
> >>>>
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> >>>> You'll be hard pressed get everyone present at anything.
> >>>>
> >>>> Maybe at least 10 or so of us?
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 15:57:55 -0600 Shawn Wilkerson
> >>>> <tatz1977@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>> >with all present ...
> >>>> >
> >>>> >--- On Fri, 3/11/11, lomax <chac2ook@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >From: lomax <chac2ook@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> >Subject: [badgerstatevolunteers] Re: Field op SOP
> >>>> >To: badgerstatevolunteers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> >Date: Friday, March 11, 2011, 3:56 PM
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >we should probably talk it over at a meet before we set it in
> >>>> >stone
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 3:55 PM, lomax <chac2ook@xxxxxxxxx>
> >wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> >We've talked more the last 2 days than we ever have....this
> >is
> >>>> >great.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Shawn Wilkerson
> >>>> ><tatz1977@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >up to a point . yes
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >--- On Fri, 3/11/11, Joe <virtualadonis@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >From: Joe <virtualadonis@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >Subject: [badgerstatevolunteers] Re: Field op SOP
> >>>> >To: badgerstatevolunteers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> >Date: Friday, March 11, 2011, 3:51 PM
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >Yes structure!
> >>>> >SPIKE
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >From: kevin Joyner
> >>>> >Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 3:35 PM
> >>>> >To: badgerstatevolunteers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> >Cc: Joe
> >>>> >Subject: [badgerstatevolunteers] Re: Field op SOP
> >>>> >
> >>>> >What is their to agree or disagree with in the SOP? This is
> >the
> >>>> >need for structure that is getting handled.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Joe
> ><virtualadonis@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> >wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> >All this is good stuff. However not everyone is reading or
> >paying
> >>>> >attention to this. All of this should be discussed in a
> >meeting
> >>>> >and what is agreed on then put out to the people. Thus the
> >need
> >>>> >for structure we will all be on the same page.
> >>>> >SPIKE
> >>>> >
> >>>> >-----Original Message----- From: xcopdaddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> >Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 2:52 PM
> >>>> >To: badgerstatevolunteers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> >Subject: [badgerstatevolunteers] Field op SOP
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
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> >>>> >
> >>>> >We had a few problems last time
> >>>> >
> >>>> >Nuttin big
> >>>> >
> >>>> >Field training op SOP:
> >>>> >
> >>>> >All those participating should bring FULL BOB and line gear
> >to all
> >>>> >field ops unless otherwise instructed. To include minimum
> >field
> >>>> >gear (See WRAM posted gear list). Firearm and target ammo.
> >>>> >Clothing
> >>>> >appropriate to conditions. Head gear, body armor, load carry
> >>>> >equipment, field knife ect. Not all items will always be
> >used,
> >>>> >but
> >>>> >this will prevent people missing out on training because they
> >>>> >didn't bring gear.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >Comms: 1 radio (of the agreed style and system) per 2
> >persons
> >>>> >should be brought to all outdoor operations. Radios should
> >be
> >>>> >charged and in working order.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >Medic: EVERYONE shall bring a personal first aid kit. At
> >least 2
> >>>> >"squad" level 1st aid kits should be present. 1 carried by
> >the
> >>>> >designated medic. 1 as a backup.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >Procedure:
> >>>> >Personnel shall meet at agreed time in agreed muster point.
> >>>> >Head count shall be taken and radios/ medical equipment/
> >other
> >>>> >equipment handed out as needed.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >Movement to training area should be done as an organized
> >march,
> >>>> >Either as a file (esp if in public view) or in wedge patrol
> >>>> >formation.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >When training area is reached group shall fan out and sweep
> >area
> >>>> >and set up 360 security before conducting training.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >NON group movement should be done in buddy teams for safety
> >and
> >>>> >tactical reasons. No one should ever go anywhere alone.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >Training block: Training should be laid out in advance if
> >>>> >particular equipment is required. Rappelling gear, tools,
> >camp
> >>>> >gear, flash lights, paintball guns etc.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >Training blocks should be organized in a "crawl" basic info
> >"walk"
> >>>> >very basic practice "run" full speed blocks for safety and
> >ease of
> >>>> >under standing. ABOVE all safety should be a top priority of
> >all
> >>>> >training.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >NO illegal activities should ever be advocated by training.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >Instruction should be conducted without interruption for
> >>>> >efficiency, instructors should however pause as often as is
> >>>> >practical, to allow for questions.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >At each field training op it would be optimal to conduct 3
> >blocks
> >>>> >of training. Each block should, be integrally related to one
> >>>> >another if at all possible.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >Security: For practice at field exercises during instruction
> >2
> >>>> >members should be providing simulated over watch. This
> >should
> >>>> >rotate, through buddy teams in blocks of time evenly
> >distributed
> >>>> >through the buddy teams. Unless other wise designated.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >Breaks:
> >>>> >for water/ bathroom/ ect should be offered approx every hour.
> > Mid
> >>>> >day a field kitchen should be set up in some manner and field
> >>>> >cooking/ mess should be conducted in "bug out mode" if at all
> >>>> >possible. Attention should be paid to not giving away
> >location by
> >>>> >noise, smoke, waste ect while cooking if at all possible.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >At conclusion of training block personnel should discuss
> >training
> >>>> >and relevant issues to the general group, but security should
> >be
> >>>> >continued through the duration of the operation for training
> >>>> >purposes. Location sec should also be attempted to be kept
> >>>> >through
> >>>> >noise, light, smoke discipline whenever possible.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >close of training:
> >>>> >The area should be policed for any and all garbage or items
> >that
> >>>> >would violate OPSEC. Extraction and egress from training area
> >>>> >should follow the same procedures as entry.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >Borrowed equipment should be returned to owner or to group
> >supply.
> >>>> >LACE (Liquid Ammo Casualty Equipment) report should be
> >verbally
> >>>> >taken for future reference as to set up parameters of supply
> >>>> >needs,
> >>>> >individual hazards equipment needs ans the like.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >Head count should again be taken before dismissal of
> >personnel.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >AAR: At least 1 after action report should be generated for
> >each
> >>>> >Field training operation by at least 1 designated participant
> >and
> >>>> >any other person who wishes to write one. Basic summary of
> >the
> >>>> >activities, problems encountered, solutions found, any other
> >>>> >events
> >>>> >of significance should be noted. 3 things to sustain and 3
> >things
> >>>> >to improve should be submitted. The report(s)should be
> >reviewed
> >>>> >at
> >>>> >the next planning meeting (non field meeting). Format should
> >>>> >follow previous ex if possible.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >Discuss adjust as yall wish.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >That's what i can come up with with a sleeping baby on me.
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> >>>> >
> >>>> >--
> >>>> >--
> >>>> >Kevin J
> >>>> >====================
> >>>> >“Far Better it is to Dare Mighty Things than to take rank
> >with
> >>>> >those poor, timid spirits Who know Neither Victory nor
> >Defeat.”
> >>>> >Theodore Roosevelt
> >>>> >
> >>>> >"I was not delivered unto this world in defeat,
> >>>> >nor does failure course in my veins. I am not a
> >>>> >sheep waiting to be prodded by my shepherd. I
> >>>> >am a lion and I refuse to talk, to walk, to sleep
> >>>> >with the sheep. I will hear not those who weep
> >>>> >and complain, for their disease is contagious. Let
> >>>> >them join the sheep. The slaughterhouse of failure
> >>>> >is not my destiny.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >--
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >freeman lomax
> >>>> >www.1revolutionnow.com
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >--
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >freeman lomax
> >>>> >www.1revolutionnow.com
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> >>>> --
> >>>> --
> >>>> Kevin J
> >>>> ====================
> >>>> “Far Better it is to Dare Mighty Things than to take rank with
> >those
> >>>> poor, timid spirits Who know Neither Victory nor Defeat.”
> >>>> Theodore Roosevelt
> >>>>
> >>>> "I was not delivered unto this world in defeat,
> >>>> nor does failure course in my veins. I am not a
> >>>> sheep waiting to be prodded by my shepherd. I
> >>>> am a lion and I refuse to talk, to walk, to sleep
> >>>> with the sheep. I will hear not those who weep
> >>>> and complain, for their disease is contagious. Let
> >>>> them join the sheep. The slaughterhouse of failure
> >>>> is not my destiny.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> --
> >>> Kevin J
> >>> ====================
> >>> “Far Better it is to Dare Mighty Things than to take rank with
> >those poor,
> >>> timid spirits Who know Neither Victory nor Defeat.”
> >>> Theodore Roosevelt
> >>>
> >>> "I was not delivered unto this world in defeat,
> >>> nor does failure course in my veins. I am not a
> >>> sheep waiting to be prodded by my shepherd. I
> >>> am a lion and I refuse to talk, to walk, to sleep
> >>> with the sheep. I will hear not those who weep
> >>> and complain, for their disease is contagious. Let
> >>> them join the sheep. The slaughterhouse of failure
> >>> is not my destiny.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> **
> >> *freeman lomax*
> >> *www.1revolutionnow.com*
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >--
> >--
> >Kevin J
> >====================
> >“Far Better it is to Dare Mighty Things than to take rank with
> >those poor,
> >timid spirits Who know Neither Victory nor Defeat.”
> >Theodore Roosevelt
> >
> >"I was not delivered unto this world in defeat,
> >nor does failure course in my veins. I am not a
> >sheep waiting to be prodded by my shepherd. I
> >am a lion and I refuse to talk, to walk, to sleep
> >with the sheep. I will hear not those who weep
> >and complain, for their disease is contagious. Let
> >them join the sheep. The slaughterhouse of failure
> >is not my destiny.
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