[badgerstatevolunteers] Re: Field op SOP
- From: lomax <chac2ook@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: badgerstatevolunteers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 20:00:58 -0600
Actually WW, I think we've moved the meeting to Sunday, I'd check w/
Kaje......$15.00....sounds like a feast to me!!!! LOL
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Wonder Woman <wonder10woman@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> The next meeting is gonna be at my pad! Saturday the 19th, but I don't
> know what time. Suggestions? I'll try to have a few snacks unless you guys
> want somethin else like ordering pizza or something. $15 at the door, and
> provide presents for the host! well, it was worth a shot.
>
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> *From:* kevin Joyner <joynerkev@xxxxxxxxx>
> *To:* badgerstatevolunteers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Cc:* Joe SPIKE <virtualadonis@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Sent:* Fri, March 11, 2011 7:06:21 PM
>
> *Subject:* [badgerstatevolunteers] Re: Field op SOP
>
> Okay I'll bite even though I'm not much for nit pickers.
> Who decided?
> I really hate going into this because it really sounds like me bragging on
> myself. And in all honesty I shouldn't have to justify myself to you. But
> for the sake of argument let's do it. When I came across this group on Wram
> they still hadn't gotten past being on Wram. I was the one who said let's
> get together and do something and set up the face to face. I was the one
> who said let's stop talking and let's start doing.
> The reason I am doing it is because I am the one who stepped up to the
> challenge to do it! Since that time I have constantly offered opportunity
> for others to step up and do the same.
> Why did I not call you?
> Because it is not my job or anyone elses to call you to see how far you can
> travel. I haven't asked Lomax who lives in Madison nor have I asked Jemma
> who lives in Sheboygan. Nor will I or anyone else.
> The sites and passwords are handled and there is a backup person(s). You
> are not one of them, deal with it!
> Spike here is the bottom line since you want to do some calling out. You
> are a student in this group. Until you can learn to survive, take direction
> and become an educator in this group then that is what you are period! You
> do not have the skills to take care of yourself and don't tell me you do
> because I've seen first hand that you do not! If you do have those skills
> then you most certainly have not proven it.
> So don't sit back and try to call me out when I've put heart, soul, money,
> and more time than I can count into this while your contribution has
> consisted of baseless opinions and incorrect assumptions. Now I'm done with
> this pissing contest!
>
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Joe SPIKE <virtualadonis@xxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> Not everyone has to be at the meetings if we do it right folks. kevin at
>> the meetings we give you ideas on how to solve this problem and even take
>> some of the load. How can we do this if we did not know you are the one
>> doing the job (a potato if I ever saw one)? Also who decided you should be
>> the one wroking on this? You have not called me to ask when I am available
>> or how far I can travel. Who have you called? What is your plan of action?
>> If you die in a car accident or have to leave town who will continue your
>> work that we did not even know you were doing?
>>
>> SINCERELY
>> JOE WELSH
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 17:54:36 -0600
>>
>> Subject: [badgerstatevolunteers] Re: Field op SOP
>> From: joynerkev@xxxxxxxxx
>> To: badgerstatevolunteers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> CC: xcopdaddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>> Right! I'm trying to work this next meeting so that as many as possible
>> can come. Unfortunately it isn't always going to be the case. If we try to
>> solve every problem with meetings and the consensus of everyone then we are
>> not going to get much done.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 5:49 PM, <xcopdaddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
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>> You'll be hard pressed get everyone present at anything.
>>
>> Maybe at least 10 or so of us?
>>
>> On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 15:57:55 -0600 Shawn Wilkerson
>> <tatz1977@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >with all present ...
>> >
>> >--- On Fri, 3/11/11, lomax <chac2ook@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >From: lomax <chac2ook@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >Subject: [badgerstatevolunteers] Re: Field op SOP
>> >To: badgerstatevolunteers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >Date: Friday, March 11, 2011, 3:56 PM
>> >
>> >
>> >we should probably talk it over at a meet before we set it in
>> >stone
>> >
>> >
>> >On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 3:55 PM, lomax <chac2ook@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> >We've talked more the last 2 days than we ever have....this is
>> >great.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Shawn Wilkerson
>> ><tatz1977@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >up to a point . yes
>> >
>> >
>> >--- On Fri, 3/11/11, Joe <virtualadonis@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >From: Joe <virtualadonis@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >
>> >Subject: [badgerstatevolunteers] Re: Field op SOP
>> >To: badgerstatevolunteers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >Date: Friday, March 11, 2011, 3:51 PM
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Yes structure!
>> >SPIKE
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >From: kevin Joyner
>> >Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 3:35 PM
>> >To: badgerstatevolunteers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >Cc: Joe
>> >Subject: [badgerstatevolunteers] Re: Field op SOP
>> >
>> >What is their to agree or disagree with in the SOP? This is the
>> >need for structure that is getting handled.
>> >
>> >
>> >On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Joe <virtualadonis@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >All this is good stuff. However not everyone is reading or paying
>> >attention to this. All of this should be discussed in a meeting
>> >and what is agreed on then put out to the people. Thus the need
>> >for structure we will all be on the same page.
>> >SPIKE
>> >
>> >-----Original Message----- From: xcopdaddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 2:52 PM
>> >To: badgerstatevolunteers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >Subject: [badgerstatevolunteers] Field op SOP
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> >We had a few problems last time
>> >
>> >Nuttin big
>> >
>> >Field training op SOP:
>> >
>> >All those participating should bring FULL BOB and line gear to all
>> >field ops unless otherwise instructed. To include minimum field
>> >gear (See WRAM posted gear list). Firearm and target ammo.
>> >Clothing
>> >appropriate to conditions. Head gear, body armor, load carry
>> >equipment, field knife ect. Not all items will always be used,
>> >but
>> >this will prevent people missing out on training because they
>> >didn't bring gear.
>> >
>> >Comms: 1 radio (of the agreed style and system) per 2 persons
>> >should be brought to all outdoor operations. Radios should be
>> >charged and in working order.
>> >
>> >Medic: EVERYONE shall bring a personal first aid kit. At least 2
>> >"squad" level 1st aid kits should be present. 1 carried by the
>> >designated medic. 1 as a backup.
>> >
>> >Procedure:
>> >Personnel shall meet at agreed time in agreed muster point.
>> >Head count shall be taken and radios/ medical equipment/ other
>> >equipment handed out as needed.
>> >
>> >Movement to training area should be done as an organized march,
>> >Either as a file (esp if in public view) or in wedge patrol
>> >formation.
>> >
>> >When training area is reached group shall fan out and sweep area
>> >and set up 360 security before conducting training.
>> >
>> >NON group movement should be done in buddy teams for safety and
>> >tactical reasons. No one should ever go anywhere alone.
>> >
>> >Training block: Training should be laid out in advance if
>> >particular equipment is required. Rappelling gear, tools, camp
>> >gear, flash lights, paintball guns etc.
>> >
>> >Training blocks should be organized in a "crawl" basic info "walk"
>> >very basic practice "run" full speed blocks for safety and ease of
>> >under standing. ABOVE all safety should be a top priority of all
>> >training.
>> >
>> >NO illegal activities should ever be advocated by training.
>> >
>> >Instruction should be conducted without interruption for
>> >efficiency, instructors should however pause as often as is
>> >practical, to allow for questions.
>> >
>> >At each field training op it would be optimal to conduct 3 blocks
>> >of training. Each block should, be integrally related to one
>> >another if at all possible.
>> >
>> >Security: For practice at field exercises during instruction 2
>> >members should be providing simulated over watch. This should
>> >rotate, through buddy teams in blocks of time evenly distributed
>> >through the buddy teams. Unless other wise designated.
>> >
>> >Breaks:
>> >for water/ bathroom/ ect should be offered approx every hour. Mid
>> >day a field kitchen should be set up in some manner and field
>> >cooking/ mess should be conducted in "bug out mode" if at all
>> >possible. Attention should be paid to not giving away location by
>> >noise, smoke, waste ect while cooking if at all possible.
>> >
>> >
>> >At conclusion of training block personnel should discuss training
>> >and relevant issues to the general group, but security should be
>> >continued through the duration of the operation for training
>> >purposes. Location sec should also be attempted to be kept
>> >through
>> >noise, light, smoke discipline whenever possible.
>> >
>> >close of training:
>> >The area should be policed for any and all garbage or items that
>> >would violate OPSEC. Extraction and egress from training area
>> >should follow the same procedures as entry.
>> >
>> >Borrowed equipment should be returned to owner or to group supply.
>> >LACE (Liquid Ammo Casualty Equipment) report should be verbally
>> >taken for future reference as to set up parameters of supply
>> >needs,
>> >individual hazards equipment needs ans the like.
>> >
>> >Head count should again be taken before dismissal of personnel.
>> >
>> >AAR: At least 1 after action report should be generated for each
>> >Field training operation by at least 1 designated participant and
>> >any other person who wishes to write one. Basic summary of the
>> >activities, problems encountered, solutions found, any other
>> >events
>> >of significance should be noted. 3 things to sustain and 3 things
>> >to improve should be submitted. The report(s)should be reviewed
>> >at
>> >the next planning meeting (non field meeting). Format should
>> >follow previous ex if possible.
>> >
>> >Discuss adjust as yall wish.
>> >
>> >That's what i can come up with with a sleeping baby on me.
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>> >Kevin J
>> >====================
>> >“Far Better it is to Dare Mighty Things than to take rank with
>> >those poor, timid spirits Who know Neither Victory nor Defeat.”
>> >Theodore Roosevelt
>> >
>> >"I was not delivered unto this world in defeat,
>> >nor does failure course in my veins. I am not a
>> >sheep waiting to be prodded by my shepherd. I
>> >am a lion and I refuse to talk, to walk, to sleep
>> >with the sheep. I will hear not those who weep
>> >and complain, for their disease is contagious. Let
>> >them join the sheep. The slaughterhouse of failure
>> >is not my destiny.
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>> >freeman lomax
>> >www.1revolutionnow.com
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>> Kevin J
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>> “Far Better it is to Dare Mighty Things than to take rank with those poor,
>> timid spirits Who know Neither Victory nor Defeat.”
>> Theodore Roosevelt
>>
>> "I was not delivered unto this world in defeat,
>> nor does failure course in my veins. I am not a
>> sheep waiting to be prodded by my shepherd. I
>> am a lion and I refuse to talk, to walk, to sleep
>> with the sheep. I will hear not those who weep
>> and complain, for their disease is contagious. Let
>> them join the sheep. The slaughterhouse of failure
>> is not my destiny.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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> Kevin J
> ====================
> “Far Better it is to Dare Mighty Things than to take rank with those poor,
> timid spirits Who know Neither Victory nor Defeat.”
> Theodore Roosevelt
>
> "I was not delivered unto this world in defeat,
> nor does failure course in my veins. I am not a
> sheep waiting to be prodded by my shepherd. I
> am a lion and I refuse to talk, to walk, to sleep
> with the sheep. I will hear not those who weep
> and complain, for their disease is contagious. Let
> them join the sheep. The slaughterhouse of failure
> is not my destiny.
>
>
>
>
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