I'll pass this along on the TAAA user's group. I did find it interesting that the lasers will travel that distance. Of course, the beam does diverge, but still delivers a potent flash even after travelling through 10 miles of smoke, dust, and air. I did note that last Friday evening when the North rim responded to the South rim. I am often asked how far the beam travels "up" by the public whenever I use a green laser. I know you can't see the actual beam for 10 miles because of divergence and scattering, but it would be interesting to know how far the beam is actually visible. Perhaps a safe experiment can be arranged in the future. Some of us have higher-power lasers, as we hold public star parties where sky conditions are not as optimal. This does create a dilemna when it comes to darker sites like the GCSP. The laser I purchased has an adjustable power level, but was rather expensive. The one I had last year (a 55 mW) quit working after a few months. I did a lot of research on green lasers, and decided to purchase a high-end unit constructed to perform at the specified power level without exceeding the internal components' ratings. The adjustable level is nice, as I can actually increase or reduce the laser's output depending on what I need. However, with such a powerful unit, I do have to be very careful now! I would not want to take out orbiting satellites (ha, ha). I purchased the unit from Optotronics. Perhaps we can find a better way to signal each other and say "hi", without annoying those who are not interested. George "Steven Dodder" <sdodder@hotmail. com> To Sent by: az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx az-observing-boun cc ce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject [AZ-Observing] Re: GCSP North Rim 06/26/2006 06:51 Report PM Please respond to az-observing@free lists.org Having been on both ends of "laser wars", I'd like to negotiate an armistice. It was an interesting experiment, to see how well lasers traverse the ~9 miles across the canyon, but now it's turned into something else. Viewed another way, it was funny at first, but now it's just annoying. I vote we cease and desist. Plus, I agree with Tom P. 5mW is plenty in a dark site. Steve and Rosie Dodder sdodder@xxxxxxxxxxx Visit my web site at http://www.stargazing.net/Astroman -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list. -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.