Hi Bede, For what font and what font size are these spaces for? These days I'm using Calibri a lot. Usually the body text font size is 10.5, and although 6 pts above isn't too bad, if I had my way I'd prefer 8 pts. Maybe there's a need for a chart or something that shows generally acceptable guidelines for spacing between different fonts and font sizes? Does anyone know if something like this is already out there? (I haven't searched yet.) Sonja From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of SUNTER Bede Sent: Sunday, 17 July 2011 3:12 PM To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: atw: Re: Paragraph spacing I have, for a long time, taken a different approach to space than what seems to be the consensus. I only put space before -- typically 18 pts for headings, 12 for body text, 6 for bullet lists and 3 for table text. I use 3 points before and after for table text so that the text doesn't commit unmentionables with the underside rule of the table. This means that spacing is always consistent. I've noticed that different versions of Word handle para space differently leading to inconsistent spacing across versions. So the single-side spacing was my preferred solution. The only problem arises when a block of body text precedes a table (the unmentionables again). For this I created a 'space' style - a para set to exactly 6 points (applied by a keyboard shortcut of course). Sounds complicated but it's actually simple when you decide to do it that way and set up accordingly. Bede ________________________________ From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of bja Sent: Saturday, 16 July 2011 12:28 AM To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: atw: Re: Paragraph spacing Hi Terry, 1st para = 3pt below Next para = 6pt above The greater value (6pt) is the space between paras and is therefore dominant over the 3pt value of the 1st para which becomes irrelevant. Anne didn't qualify her statement by stipulating which tool adds the two values (a tool I haven't come across yet) so I'll simply qualify my statement by saying this is the way it works in Word and FrameMaker. Cheers, Bruce ________________________________ From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Terry Dowling Sent: Friday, 15 July 2011 4:21 PM To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: atw: Re: Paragraph spacing Hi Bruce, Meant to ask before... What do you mean by dominant in the following? Cheers, Terry From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of bja Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 18:28 To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: atw: Re: Paragraph spacing ... way the greater value is always the dominant one. Cheers, Bruce ________________________________ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com<http://www.avg.com> Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1516/3766 - Release Date: 07/15/11 Before printing, please consider the environment. IMPORTANT NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachment to it are intended only to be read or used by the named addressee. It is confidential and may contain legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistaken transmission to you. The RTA is not responsible for any unauthorised alterations to this e-mail or attachment to it. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of the RTA. If you receive this e-mail in error, please immediately delete it from your system and notify the sender. You must not disclose, copy or use any part of this e-mail if you are not the intended recipient. Important - This email and any attachments may be confidential. If received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before opening or using attachments check them for viruses and defects. Regardless of any loss, damage or consequence, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not, resulting directly or indirectly from the use of any attached files our liability is limited to resupplying any affected attachments. Any representations or opinions expressed are those of the individual sender, and not necessarily those of the Department of Education and Early Childhood Development.