True, Brian (Clarke), But, in some cases, we can only point out the folly of their stone age ways to them and, from then on, be it on their collective MS-DROSS or Windows Neanderthal Technology (NT) head. In the meantime, using a logically named and structured directory system for one's documents will really help (us if not them). Also, entering something meaningful (even in tiny or hidden text) in the first line of text can be of benefit when doing a Windows (Flag+F) find file containing... and when opening files using the MS Office file preview option. You do what you can do, under the circumstances to add value to your customer or employer's business. Sometimes they just don't want to know (scared of change). Other times, nobody has ever had the gumption to let them know how much better things can be, because so many folk are terrified by progress, because progress means change and having to learn new things. It also means having to push some entrenched people far beyond their areas of technical competence, so tread carefully, as some toes are particularly brittle. That's where sometimes we have to step out of our comfy, but awfully tattered old tech writer slippers and step into the shiny shoes of the technical communications consultant, where we can take our job providers by the hand and lead them into the wonders of the information age. Surely it is both our duty and our destiny to think outside the square and help them (and ourselves in the process) to advance. There is little point in just sitting by and watching a technologically retarded but salvageable company fall even further behind. They will simply become extinct even sooner, which is of no use to anyone except for their competitors, who should never be allowed to win without a fight. Sometimes being a team player means having to take the reins and lead from within. Michael Granat Write Ideas At 20:24 25/8/2003 +1000, you wrote: >Hi Michael, >In some establishments, it is very difficult to enter such data as Title >or Author because the IT department has decided such fields are not >editable by the workers, ie, you and me. In others where I have been >employed, people had been imbibing for so long at the MS-DOS pottie, that >all they could do was generate 8-character Filenames, that were almost >completely unintelligible to anyone else. >Brian. ************************************************** To post a message to austechwriter, send the message to austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe to austechwriter, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "subscribe" in the Subject field. To unsubscribe, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject field. To search the austechwriter archives, go to www.freelist.org/archives/austechwriter To contact the list administrator, send a message to austechwriter-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx **************************************************