[audio-pals] Re: Self Teaching on the iMac

  • From: Thomas McMahan <shadowmonstrosity@xxxxxxx>
  • To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 10:26:44 -0500

It’s kind of hard to explain for me since I don’t know a lot about it myself.  
But basically one thing is that it can be used as a different and probably more 
secure player proticall.  There are both developers in the Mac world and the 
linux world trying to use it in their development.  It’s probably made the most 
gains in the linux world, yet there have been a few sites that I’ve been on 
that have offered it as an alternative with Safari.  It died it, it was slow to 
load though, so there obviously needs to be more work done.  It’s something 
that I’ve been hearing about for more than 5 years, and then last year it 
started showing up unexpectedly.  I think it’s all open source to to begin 
with, granted you get what you pay for, but you get that with Java and Flash 
anyway, and those companies haven’t been the most cooperative about 
accessibility over the years.

You may want to talk to some of these developers and those more in the loop on 
the mac lists probably, they can give you a lot more lowdown about it and how 
it works etc.  Jonathan Mosen would be one who may be able to explain it more 
thoroughly to you for example, but he’s only one of several.  

Or do a Google search.  
  
On Aug 14, 2014, at 7:50 AM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> What is HTML 5? I seen the person that runs Mac Visionaries talking about as 
> an option for someone to use with their You Tube account.
>  
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> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 11:54 PM
> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Self Teaching on the iMac
>  
> Well they have actually improved a little over the years, but they could 
> still improve it more.  Although I still hope for the day when html5 makes 
> flash and those captchas become extinct.  
> On Aug 13, 2014, at 8:44 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks for this information. I had to wait till Amanda got home to click the 
> next button and then the finish button. They are a pain on the windows side 
> of things as well, but I believe they are coming out with some self 
> installers.
>  
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> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 7:39 PM
> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Self Teaching on the iMac
>  
> Okay if you have an app that says not responding, or doesn’t seem to be, do 
> command option escape.  That brings up othintication window.  If you can’t 
> find it you may have to go into the window chooser to find the othintication 
> window that is VO keys f2 twice, the f2 that is while holding down the VO 
> keys.  Interact in the table in othintication, find the app, then back out.  
> You don’t have to click the app, then click force quit.  A dialog will come 
> up tell it to force quit again and it will force it.  That can also relaunch 
> finder for you too.  Strangely enough sometimes you may have to do it.  
>  
> As for flash installers and updates, those are a pain.  Just use your tab key 
> to find the function you want it to do, then try either your return key or 
> spacebar.  Using the VO spacebar doesn’t seem to work.  Same with stuff 
> involving Java both of those are problematic.  They are both also in 
> accessibility of your system preferences.  Why they are there I don’t know, 
> but they have been since Mavericks came out.  
>  
> In fact with Java to check i think it opens up the Java window and you then 
> have to do VO m to see the apple menu then you have it check for updates.  
> Even if you set these things to automatically update, they don’t always do 
> it, or it might be a day later than when it comes out, although since you 
> live in the Eastern time zone, maybe not.  A buddy of mine in Ohio gets his 
> updates ahead of me over 90% of the time.  Sometimes mine are almost a day 
> later if I just wait for them.  So when he tells me of an update then I go 
> check sometimes they are available and sometimes they aren’t.  
>  
> On Aug 13, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I found the one that shuts down the computer quickly by accident. I had the 
> help keys on going through those keys trying to figure everything out. I 
> thought maybe the mute key had been activated, then I realized the computer 
> had been shut down. I am in the process of trying to install Adobe Flash 
> Player, but it doesn’t seem to be taking. At one time I had about three flash 
> player installers on the computer *LOL*. Then I got it narrowed down to one. 
> However, when I go to the html window I make my selection and then I click 
> next and nothing seems to be happening. I could have kicked myself one time. 
> I waited and waited, I hit the next button a few times without any success. 
> So, after a while I decide to shut down the window and it quits but not 
> before telling me that Adobe was 90% installed. I have found the force shut 
> down keys to if a program is not responding.
>  
> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 12:38 PM
> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Self Teaching on the iMac
>  
> Command q.  Command w closes windows sometimes, command q the app, don’t need 
> vo keys for everything there are key commands universal to mac as well.  
> Control option command eject for example is a fast way to power off your 
> machine.  Handy if a storm is coming up fast.  I know those don’t happen 
> often where you live, but lightning where you live can reach fast.  That 
> avoids the dialogs etc.  If your phone is hooked on the machine at same time 
> you will hear it blip as it switches over to battery power and that is a good 
> confirmation that the machine is off, besides the lack of VO and the click on 
> your volume controls of course.  
>  
> On Aug 13, 2014, at 7:41 AM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hey Tom,
>    I know that pressing VO keys and I believe shift with the letter q or just 
> VO keys and the q key shuts down the programs, but it shuts down everything 
> including voiceover. Is there a way to close out programs without shutting 
> down voiceover?  

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