I found the one that shuts down the computer quickly by accident. I had the help keys on going through those keys trying to figure everything out. I thought maybe the mute key had been activated, then I realized the computer had been shut down. I am in the process of trying to install Adobe Flash Player, but it doesn't seem to be taking. At one time I had about three flash player installers on the computer *LOL*. Then I got it narrowed down to one. However, when I go to the html window I make my selection and then I click next and nothing seems to be happening. I could have kicked myself one time. I waited and waited, I hit the next button a few times without any success. So, after a while I decide to shut down the window and it quits but not before telling me that Adobe was 90% installed. I have found the force shut down keys to if a program is not responding. From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 12:38 PM To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Self Teaching on the iMac Command q. Command w closes windows sometimes, command q the app, don't need vo keys for everything there are key commands universal to mac as well. Control option command eject for example is a fast way to power off your machine. Handy if a storm is coming up fast. I know those don't happen often where you live, but lightning where you live can reach fast. That avoids the dialogs etc. If your phone is hooked on the machine at same time you will hear it blip as it switches over to battery power and that is a good confirmation that the machine is off, besides the lack of VO and the click on your volume controls of course. On Aug 13, 2014, at 7:41 AM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hey Tom, I know that pressing VO keys and I believe shift with the letter q or just VO keys and the q key shuts down the programs, but it shuts down everything including voiceover. Is there a way to close out programs without shutting down voiceover?