Ron, good looking sewout...I have a thought....instead of doing the full 'box' behind the bottom lettering -what about duplicating the lettering, convert to lineart, and then using a low density fill pattern-it would be directly underneath the lettering...would that work-anyone tried it yet? I'm doing the 'box' underlayment on the christmas stockings and hats, but I use the 'normal' walk stitch to outline the lettering about 1/8" past it-then convert to a fill and do a real loose 60 count fill-so I don't get 'square edges' but more of an outline 'cloud' behind it. Ties down that pesky fake fur real good. And where did you find the Special Olympic logo? I had to screen print a hundred of them last month-from a real bad inkjet printout of a horrible webpage image. Duplicated it in freehand as vector lineart and just crossed my fingers and hoped it was close to what it should be. They were happy with it-but if I have to embroider it I'm not sure how accurate I really came out! Roland