I am suspicious that the format changes might be causing the problem. I never would have thought of trying .dst. I'll check it out. Thanks Anand. Mary Mary Buckle Shuffletown Embroidery Charlotte, NC 704-398-1273 -----Original Message----- From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kesavan Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:00 PM To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [amayausers] Re: Trims When I save to exp from Wilcom and read it on my Happy I get the same problem. Try saving it to dst then read it to Design Shop and save it as .ofm Anand I am having trouble getting automatic trims. I am running Design Shop Pro + 7.00.018. The Amaya OS is the same version. I have a design that was digitized in Wilcom and saved as .emb. I open it in ES-45 and save it as an .exp file, then read it into Design Shop and save the file as .ofm. When I run it on the Amaya, there are a number of jumps that are not trimming wheI think they should. The tools > options > file options tab in the Amaya OS has jump stitches for trim = 3. Are there any other settings I need to adjust? Am I just dreaming that this should "automagically" do the trims, or do I hon ave to go back to Wilcom to insert the trims? Should I be saving the file as .cnd? When I do, I get a whole lot more stitches, like 5% more. Thanks for any suggestions or enlightenment. Mary Mary Buckle Shuffletown Embroidery Charlotte, NC 704-398-1273