This message was posted by signman on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?/topic/2/1214.html#000008 With only one head, you would be lucky to do 6-8 hats an hour. Maybe if you could do the backs with a speedclamp system it would go faster...but otherwise you are looking at a gross of only $15-$20 per hour. For those of us with a single head, that doesn't cover overhead or if you have to pay an employee...you are losing money. Those shops with a couple heads can do it, but I'm one that would also charge a minimum of $4 if WE supply the item, $5 to $10 if the customer supplies it.(depends on item and quantity) Also, as an independant ad specialty rep-EVERY company that does hats (China, Vietnam, wherever they come from) WILL ALSO DO THE BACKS for a price-and I would bet your customer didn't want to pay THEIR price to have it done and wanted you to do it for less. Or, as someone mentioned-he needed an individual name on every hat and they wouldn't do it! Stand firm-you know what it takes to pay your bills! Once you start throwing out low prices it can come back to haunt you-everyone will want the low prices and you will never have a chance to make money! =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================