No, mine were small patches (3-4 inches) and I used fast frames and sticky paper (normally yuck but with the new rollers and updated OS I didn't have any thread breaks--I just did 8 patches!). Dorothy In a message dated 5/4/2006 4:31:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, tsiemb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Dorothy, How do you hoop so that the patches stay put while embroidering? Can you please share with me how you did it? Are the patches jacket back size that you get from Andrew at Salem Emblem? Cheryl Rotter Team Sports Ink 5111 Grumann Dr. Ste #1B Carson City, NV 89706 775-884-3550 -----Original Message----- From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of DLCompton@xxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 4:17 PM To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [amayausers] Re: Motorcycle Jacket Back patches. I get mine from Salem Emblem in Oregon. I think Aaron stitches his patches and then sends them to Andrew to merrow. I get blanks and then stitch the patch. I get the minimum and use only some of those--very small orders--then I have a few blanks for those emergency orders (not a lot of selection but you get what you get). Dorothy Compton Bee Embroidered _www.BeeEmbroidered.com_ (http://www.beeembroidered.com/) (916) 635-7467 Rancho Cordova, CA In a message dated 5/3/2006 5:25:31 PM Pacific Daylight Time, tsiemb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: I have been contacted by a motorcycle club about jacket back patches. Is it best to get the blank patches and sew on them, or sew them myself on poly twill and send them for merrowing? From past posts, I have written down one source for blank patches. (stadriemblems) Does anyone have other sources? Thanks in advance for any advice. PS. If anyone can share with me how to search the archives, I would be ever so grateful. I tried once but got dead ended. Thanks Cheryl Rotter Team Sports Ink 5111 Grumann Dr. Ste #1B Carson City, NV 89706 775-884-3550