I have sewn on leather vests that the motorcyclists wear. I used a = graphic type design to cut down on the number of stitches which cuts down on the number of holes you are putting in the garment. They also wanted a USA = on the back yoke in large letters, filled in with an outline. I did a = "type of appliqu=E9" for this. I matched the material to the thread, did the = appliqu=E9 but also had a fill stitch over the material. I used a density of 8 for = the fill. It still looked like a regular fill stitch but did not have a = many stitches on it. When done you could not even tell there was any = material under there, looks just like a regualr fill stitch with an outline = border. They loved it. =20 Hope this helps. LiVawne Moore Moore Embroidery & Designs=20 -----Original Message----- From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of DLCompton@xxxxxxx Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 5:29 PM To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [amayausers] Re: Leather =20 I've never sewn on leather but Helen's book recommends: For soft = leather, use a sharp needle, the smallest you can (switch to ball point if you = get too many thread breaks). For hard leather, use a ball point. Use a 70/10 = for light leather, 75/11 for mid-weight and 80/12 for heavy. Synthetic = thread (e.g. =20 polyester) is good as the acid used in tanning can compromise natural fibers. =20 You can use #40-weight but #30 will allow use of less density (fewer = needle holes).=20 =20 Use tearaway backing, wrap hoop prior to hooping or go hoop-less. =20 There is alot more....you can call me and I'll read it to you if you'd like. =20 =20 Dorothy Compton Bee Embroidered _www.BeeEmbroidered.com_ (http://www.beeembroidered.com/) (916) 635-7467 Rancho Cordova, CA =20 =20 In a message dated 4/29/2005 11:43:19 AM Pacific Daylight Time, =20 adams3910@xxxxxxxxxx writes: I have my first encounter with leather and am not sure what precautions = I should take----needle size, sharp vs ball? Any suggestions? Thanks Jeanne Adams Sports Etc