Hello Tink, I have just spoken to Sainsburys customer care, and was told that the site cannot be changed as it cost to much money to have it done. So I said so what about the law about making websites more accessible for the disabled about then haven't you read this? and I got no response from them at all. Yesterday was the first time that I have ever ordered from Sainsburys and if this is what they are going to be like I think I shall enjoy, as I will fight for the rights of the disabled especially us the blind. Regards Andrew Shipp Located Northamptonshire Home phone 01604-517007, Mobile )07773457805, Email andrew-shipp4@xxxxxxxxxxxx I am also the Manager and Moderator of blind-gardening. All Messages are checked before sending by Norton anti Virus. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Léonie Watson" <lw@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 3:02 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: sainsburys have become non accessible for booking delivery slots as of today > Pete, > > I've just tried to book a slot, using Jaws. I noticed that the table > containing the delivery slot links was 7 columns by 6 rows. I took an > educated guess that the colums represented the days of the week and that the > rows represented the delivery times. > Working on this idea, I selected what I thought was a Thursday lunchtime > delivery slot. I couldn't apparently see any confirmation of this time given > on the following page, although the fact that a delivery slot had been > booked was given. > > I've just called Sainsburys and spoken to one of their technical team. > He wasn't overly bright or concerned, but did offer to convey my complaint > to the web development team. > > He did give me something of a work around though. If you click on the > Trolley link, all the delivery information is available there, which I can > confirm. This isn't ideal, but it's workable at a pinch. > > I've also mailed them and if I can figure out who the development > company are, I don't think they're in-house, I'll mail them too. > In the meantime, I'd urge anyone who's got 5 minutes to give them a call > and make the case. Brute force of public feedback is the only thing likely > to turn this particular tide. The customer care line is: 0845 301 2020. > > Cheers, > Tink. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "PETE gurney" <pete@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 1:27 PM > Subject: [access-uk] sainsburys have become non accessible for booking > delivery slots as of today > > > > hello all, > > > > as the subject line says, people using screen readers can no longer > > successfully book a delivery slot on the sainsbury website as of today. > > their delivery page used to be non accessible to us last year, and i spent > > some time talking with their technical department showing them what was > > wrong with the page and pointing out that it was possible to book a slot > by > > searching for a numeric string which was part of a long string that > > represented the available slots but wasn't obvious and probably wouldn't > be > > realised by most people. > > thankfully they changed their links so that each link was spoken as a day, > > date and time which made it very simple to find the delivery slot you > > require. > > but they have changed their site again yesterday evening, and now the > > delivery selection page is even worse than it was last year. > > every link that represents a delivery slot is just labelled "booktime". > > i don't know if its the same with jaws, but with windoweyes there are > lines > > on the page that have the delivery slot details such as the day date and > > time, but they are all grouped together one line under the other and then > > in the bottom half of the page there are all the links that are labelled > > booktime. > > i've already spoken to sainsburys about this, but the technical chap i > > spoke too didn't seem to really understand the problem, he said that if i > > click on the booktime link it will then tell me what delivery slot i have > > booked. > > i think he eventually got the idea after i pointed out that you need to > > know what slot you are going to book before you click on one of the > > booktime links as there are probably 2 or 3 dozen links on the page called > > booktime and you could go round in circals and eventually > finish > > up like the ooslem bird. > > i'd be interested to know if any sainsbury users have better luck with > this > > page with jaws, but if not perhaps others can report the problem to > > sainsburys as the more of us report the problem the more likely they are > to > > do something about it. > > in the mean time i'll be using tesco all the time. > > > > pete. > > > > > > > > ** Going on holiday and want to halt messages? 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