Thanks Ray, I wasn't aware of this; I still stand by my observation that the original library recordings were in very many cases, very poorly read, but that's just my opinion - Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 12:31 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: new accessible mp3 player | Andy, and further to Iain's comment, the version sold by RNIB will | indeed be the Stephen Fry reading of HP. You see RNIB is allowed to | DAISIFY commercial books since the changes in copyright law. | | Cheers, | | From Ray | I can be contacted off-list at: | mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx | | -----Original Message----- | From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On | Behalf | Of Iain Lackie | | | Books in the RNIB talking book library are not read by some bloke they | have | dragged in offf the streets. | | Iain | | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | | | Ah! but is the RNIB daisy recording of the new HP narrated by Stephen | Frye, | or some bloke they've dragged in off the street as with other of their | 'recordings? :] - Andy | | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 1:28 PM | Subject: [access-uk] Re: new accessible mp3 player | | || Roger, I can agree with you about the mark up generally applied to || specialist stuff for us, and almost expected by them as of right. || || Harry Potter audio version? A bit different, or so I contend. | First || off Stephen Fry won't be paid peanuts for his commercial recording | of || it, plus paying for studio time, art work, distribution etc. | Visually || impaired people are not the only audience either for these books. | OK, || so this is a popular title that will be bought by many thousands of || people, but don't forget that public libraries are a gaurantteed || market for audio book producers, and like a good bit of access tech || sales, the price can be wound up to soak the big buyers at a price || that couldn't be got otherwise. || || Synical though that view just (might) be, these are the realities as | I || see them. This said, audio books, particularly unabridged ones, are || always going to be more exspensive than print versions. The only | way || this reality can be broken is with the sort of subsidy that RNIB as | a || charity can bring into play when it sells the small number of | talking || books that it does. There Roger, as a blind person, is your way | out || of getting the latest HP at a similar price to your print book | buying || genral public. Buy a DAISY version of the latest HP from RNIB. (No || commission on that sale, unfortunately.) No wonder I've never made | it || in the big bad world of business! || || Cheers, || || From Ray || I can be contacted off-list at: || mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx || -----Original Message----- || From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On || Behalf Of roger south || || || I do understand the Milestone and the BC have more functions but not || as ;;many as costing £200 more. I'm a firm believer in the || manufacturers see the disabled as a means of making more money with || the equipment we need. I'm convinced there is a price cartel that || keeps the price up because then we can't go elsewhere. || || When something like the Zen Stone comes along it emphasises just | that || point. Look at the price of audio books. The new Harry Potter is || priced I believe at £85. I will be able to buy a print copy a few | days || after the release on the 21 July for around £8.99 if previous books || are anything to go by. But for the sake of a few CD's at around 8 || pence each and the box to put it in we'll say a fiver I have to pay || £85. Now if that isn't ripping off the disabled what is. The same is || true of the players you mentioned but I'm climbing on my soapbox so || I'll shut up now. || || Roger || || Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once. || || || ----- Original Message ----- || From: Ian Macrae || || || Makes you wonder why the milestone is so expensive comparatively || dunnit. any views? || || || || || From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On || Behalf Of roger south || Sent: 30 May 2007 11:15 || To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx || Subject: [access-uk] Re: new accessible mp3 player || || || I've ordered one of these from Amazon at £27.99 plus p & p totalling || altogether £30.12. It arrives tomorrow and sounds from the write-ups || very good. But at that price if it's not what I want I can give it || away as a present and not lose any sleep. || || Roger || || Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once. || || || ----- Original Message ----- || From: Adrian Higginbotham || To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx || Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 10:50 AM || Subject: [access-uk] new accessible mp3 player || || || Just read about the upcoming release of a new screenless audible || compatible mp3 player, at under £30 for 1gg version. and no || proprietory software like Itunes, just use it like any USB drive. || http://accessbrit.wordpress.com/ || || || Adrian Higginbotham | | ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- | ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] | ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: | ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | ** and in the Subject line type | ** unsubscribe | ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the | ** immediately-following link:- | ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] | ** or send a message, to | ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq | | | -- | This email has been verified as Virus free | Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq