Well Steve, that's good to hear; perhaps I'll check out the catalogue. I have to say that so far, Audible has served me well for titles. Because of the whole nature of the spoken word thing, there is still so much not available; it is improving all the time though <smile> - Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 11:37 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: new accessible mp3 player | Hi Andy, | | I know what you mean, but things have changed now. Quite a few of the books | are recordings of the commercial offerings, and as such, are pretty good. | | All the best | | Steve | | -----Original Message----- | From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of | Andy Collins | Sent: 31 May 2007 10:20 | To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | Subject: [access-uk] Re: new accessible mp3 player | | Ian - It was a bit tongue in cheek; Maybe the titles for purchase are | professional recordings, but I found that the old talking book library's | recordings in many cases were very poorly read, hence my cancellation of my | membership; I'd rather buy professionally produced | recordings, the reader can make all the difference! - Andy | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Iain Lackie" <ilackie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 8:35 PM | Subject: [access-uk] Re: new accessible mp3 player | | || Books in the RNIB talking book library are not read by some bloke they | have || dragged in offf the streets. || || Iain || ----- Original Message ----- || From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> || To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> || Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 6:01 PM || Subject: [access-uk] Re: new accessible mp3 player || || || Ah! but is the RNIB daisy recording of the new HP narrated by Stephen | Frye, || or some bloke they've dragged in off the street as with other of their || 'recordings? :] - Andy || ----- Original Message ----- || From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> || To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> || Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 1:28 PM || Subject: [access-uk] Re: new accessible mp3 player || || ||| Roger, I can agree with you about the mark up generally applied to ||| specialist stuff for us, and almost expected by them as of right. ||| ||| Harry Potter audio version? A bit different, or so I contend. First ||| off Stephen Fry won't be paid peanuts for his commercial recording of ||| it, plus paying for studio time, art work, distribution etc. Visually ||| impaired people are not the only audience either for these books. OK, ||| so this is a popular title that will be bought by many thousands of ||| people, but don't forget that public libraries are a gaurantteed ||| market for audio book producers, and like a good bit of access tech ||| sales, the price can be wound up to soak the big buyers at a price ||| that couldn't be got otherwise. ||| ||| Synical though that view just (might) be, these are the realities as I ||| see them. This said, audio books, particularly unabridged ones, are ||| always going to be more exspensive than print versions. The only way ||| this reality can be broken is with the sort of subsidy that RNIB as a ||| charity can bring into play when it sells the small number of talking ||| books that it does. There Roger, as a blind person, is your way out ||| of getting the latest HP at a similar price to your print book buying ||| genral public. Buy a DAISY version of the latest HP from RNIB. (No ||| commission on that sale, unfortunately.) No wonder I've never made it ||| in the big bad world of business! ||| ||| Cheers, ||| ||| From Ray ||| I can be contacted off-list at: ||| mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx ||| -----Original Message----- ||| From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On ||| Behalf Of roger south ||| ||| ||| I do understand the Milestone and the BC have more functions but not ||| as ;;many as costing £200 more. I'm a firm believer in the ||| manufacturers see the disabled as a means of making more money with ||| the equipment we need. I'm convinced there is a price cartel that ||| keeps the price up because then we can't go elsewhere. ||| ||| When something like the Zen Stone comes along it emphasises just that ||| point. Look at the price of audio books. The new Harry Potter is ||| priced I believe at £85. I will be able to buy a print copy a few days ||| after the release on the 21 July for around £8.99 if previous books ||| are anything to go by. But for the sake of a few CD's at around 8 ||| pence each and the box to put it in we'll say a fiver I have to pay ||| £85. Now if that isn't ripping off the disabled what is. The same is ||| true of the players you mentioned but I'm climbing on my soapbox so ||| I'll shut up now. ||| ||| Roger ||| ||| Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once. ||| ||| ||| ----- Original Message ----- ||| From: Ian Macrae ||| ||| ||| Makes you wonder why the milestone is so expensive comparatively ||| dunnit. any views? ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On ||| Behalf Of roger south ||| Sent: 30 May 2007 11:15 ||| To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ||| Subject: [access-uk] Re: new accessible mp3 player ||| ||| ||| I've ordered one of these from Amazon at £27.99 plus p & p totalling ||| altogether £30.12. It arrives tomorrow and sounds from the write-ups ||| very good. But at that price if it's not what I want I can give it ||| away as a present and not lose any sleep. ||| ||| Roger ||| ||| Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once. ||| ||| ||| ----- Original Message ----- ||| From: Adrian Higginbotham ||| To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ||| Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 10:50 AM ||| Subject: [access-uk] new accessible mp3 player ||| ||| ||| Just read about the upcoming release of a new screenless audible ||| compatible mp3 player, at under £30 for 1gg version. and no ||| proprietory software like Itunes, just use it like any USB drive. ||| http://accessbrit.wordpress.com/ ||| ||| ||| Adrian Higginbotham ||| ||| ||| ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ||| ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ||| ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ||| ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ||| ** and in the Subject line type ||| ** unsubscribe ||| ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ||| ** immediately-following link:- ||| ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ||| ** or send a message, to ||| ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ||| ||| ||| -- ||| This email has been verified as Virus free ||| Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net || || ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- || ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] || ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: || ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx || ** and in the Subject line type || ** unsubscribe || ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the || ** immediately-following link:- || ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] || ** or send a message, to || ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq || || || || || || ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- || ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] || ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: || ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx || ** and in the Subject line type || ** unsubscribe || ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the || ** immediately-following link:- || ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] || ** or send a message, to || ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq || || || -- || This email has been verified as Virus free || Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net | | ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- | ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] | ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: | ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | ** and in the Subject line type | ** unsubscribe | ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the | ** immediately-following link:- | ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] | ** or send a message, to | ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq | | | | ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- | ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] | ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: | ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | ** and in the Subject line type | ** unsubscribe | ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the | ** immediately-following link:- | ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] | ** or send a message, to | ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq | | | -- | This email has been verified as Virus free | Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq