[access-uk] Re: k reader
- From: "Peter Beasley" <pjbeasley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:01:32 +0100
I agree.
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Nutt
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 4:47 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: k reader
Hi Peter,
That really is no excuse. They could easily get an account with Expansys or
somebody like that. We have an account with Expansys, and we just buy phones
as we need them. We sell the N82 for 344.95 pounds currently. Not the
cheapest, but the same price as Expansys.
All the best
Steve
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Peter Beasley
Sent: Sunday 27 April 2008 16:28
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: k reader
Yes they probably do buy the phonesat cost. The problem is that they don't
actually buy that many so the cost is probably higher to them than it
would be if they were buying in a lot more.
----- Original Message -----
From: terrcooper
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 4:00 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: k reader
Hi
If anyone is considering buying the package, you may want to consider the
following.
S and S do the whole package for around £1780, ish, give or take a couple
of quid. That doesn't include VAT. The software itself is a tad under £1000,
which is the bit you can't get around.
If you break their components down, i.e. scanning software, talks, n82,
then you can bring the cost down buy shopping around. e.g. They sell the N82
for £500, plus VAT, bringing it up to just under £590. If you do a search on
line, the cheapest I found the phone for was, £280, brand new, and exactly the
same as S and S are selling. The only difference is, about £300 cheaper. I
was told that they buy them in at cost, and sell them on at cost. hmmm, don't
understand that part, but hey.
If you already have talks on a phone, then you can pay the £50, for another
license, saving another £100.
Still very expensive, but £400 off the S and S cost.
That isn't a snipe at S and S, just my observations, and I'm open to be
corrected.
Thanks.
Terry
----- Original Message -----
From: Jackie Cairns
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 1:45 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: k reader
Hi Terry and All
I put my own original K-NFB Reader alongside the K-Reader that now works
on the N82, and scanned a variety of items such as utility bills, bank
statements, medication and boxes of frozen foods. By and large, I found the
results pretty much the same on both, but I did find the original K-NFB Reader
processed things faster than the phone version.
But what I love about the phone over the original is its size and obvious
portability. It's amazing to sit somewhere and just bring it out of your
pocket to scan something. Yes you can also do that with the original, but the
phone is so cute and neat.
What I don't like about the phone version over the original, however, is
the voice. The phone only has the Eloquence English version, where the guy
frankly sounds really stuffed. I'm obviously used to using the American
version of Eloquence, as I do with JAWS. I know they are planning to
incorporate another voice, but please God don't let it be RealSpeak as in Jane
or whatever her name is, as she's awful as well.
I got Ian to ring the N82 number while I was reading something with the
K-Reader, and it definitely interrupts that and allows you to take your call,
only to go back to it when you end the call. That's pretty cool I must say.
I also really like the N82 phone. It has a nice keypad and is smaller
than my N91 or the N95 for that matter.
While I borrowed it, I updated the N82 to the latest version of TALKS,
and that improved this habit it used to have of TALKS chuntering when you
entered the K-Reader software. It doesn't do that now, which is much better.
I'm no expert about this product though, and had a play with it for a few
days. I agree it is expensive, nobody is going to deny that, but it's a great
piece of kit if you want all the facilities of a good phone with TALKS, plus
the ability to be able to scan on your travels, all in one device.
I hope that helps.
Jackie
Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx
Skype Name: Cairnsplace
----- Original Message -----
From: terrcooper
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 12:43 PM
Subject: [access-uk] k reader
Hi Jackie
If you get five minutes, could you give me an overview of what you
thought of the KNFB reader.
would be very much appreciated.
Thanks.
Terry
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