[access-uk] Re: k reader

  • From: "terrcooper" <terry.cooper@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 14:52:32 +0100

Hi Jackie

Could you elaborate a little more on the voices?  Doesn't the reader use talks 
for its speech then?  I was told you had to have talks premium installed, so 
assumed the knfb reader used talks for its speech.

Thanks for any help.


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jackie Cairns 
  To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 2:44 PM
  Subject: [access-uk] Re: k reader 

  Hi Dean

  TALKS zips through the menus on the N82, it's really responsive.  Absolutely 

  I agree it would be nice if the K-Reader could use the same voice as TALKS.  
All in all, it's a very neat setup.


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    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Dean Wilcox 
    To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 2:14 PM
    Subject: [access-uk] Re: k reader 

    I dnever had the original reader but I do like how the phone version starts 
to read before it has finnished processing, slightly making up for its slower 
processing speed.  Strangely, I now prefer the UK Eloquence but when I first 
got it with Talks a few years ago I didn't like it but I stuck with it and 
changed my mind!  I was playing with both the other day and I don't know if 
things have changed but I'm sure the American and UK voices have completely 
different accents than the PC version.  I used to remember them being identical 
but that could be my preference.  The RealSpeak voices sound like lower quality 
recordings but but if you try Talks with the RealSpeak voices the RealSpeak 
licence also comes with the use of Vocalizer, a much better set of voices in my 
opinion.  It is therefore a shame you can't use your Talks voices with the KNFB 
reader.  I also love the phone with its size, WIFI, Satnav receiver all be it 
average, the zip utility it has and the improved music player to my 6680.  
Talks is so much more responsive now 

    At 13:45 27/04/2008, you wrote:

      Hi Terry and All
      I put my own original K-NFB Reader alongside the K-Reader that now works 
on the N82, and scanned a variety of items such as utility bills, bank 
statements, medication and boxes of frozen foods.  By and large, I found the 
results pretty much the same on both, but I did find the original K-NFB Reader 
processed things faster than the phone version.
      But what I love about the phone over the original is its size and obvious 
portability.  It's amazing to sit somewhere and just bring it out of your 
pocket to scan something.  Yes you can also do that with the original, but the 
phone is so cute and neat.
      What I don't like about the phone version over the original, however, is 
the voice.  The phone only has the Eloquence English version, where the guy 
frankly sounds really stuffed.  I'm obviously used to using the American 
version of Eloquence, as I do with JAWS.  I know they are planning to 
incorporate another voice, but please God don't let it be RealSpeak as in Jane 
or whatever her name is, as she's awful as well.
      I got Ian to ring the N82 number while I was reading something with the 
K-Reader, and it definitely interrupts that and allows you to take your call, 
only to go back to it when you end the call.  That's pretty cool I must say.
      I also really like the N82 phone.  It has a nice keypad and is smaller 
than my N91 or the N95 for that matter.
      While I borrowed it, I updated the N82 to the latest version of TALKS, 
and that improved this habit it used to have of TALKS chuntering when you 
entered the K-Reader software.  It doesn't do that now, which is much better.
      I'm no expert about this product though, and had a play with it for a few 
days.  I agree it is expensive, nobody is going to deny that, but it's a great 
piece of kit if you want all the facilities of a good phone with TALKS, plus 
the ability to be able to scan on your travels, all in one device.
      I hope that helps.

      Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx
      Skype Name: Cairnsplace

        ----- Original Message ----- 

        From: terrcooper 

        To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

        Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 12:43 PM

        Subject: [access-uk] k reader 

        Hi Jackie 

        If you get five minutes, could you give me an overview of what you 
thought of the KNFB reader.

        would be very much appreciated.



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