[access-uk] Re: jaws scripts for ITunes

  • From: "Brian Hartgen" <brian@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:24:32 +0100

Yes I should think the scripts will work with jaws 5, and that is going to be 
the reason for the two week delay in getting them out as I need to find the 
time to test them with different versions of jaws so I can be specific about 
which versions of jaws they will work with. I already know they will not work 
with jaws 6.1, but they will work with 6.2, so I need to get these anomalies 
ironed out.  
The version of ITunes I have is the latest so far, which is version 4.8, 
available from

I cannot answer your question about the Apple music store. I subscribe to 
Napster personally, as navigating the store is much much more accessible. 
Certainly at the initial stage, the scripts will not support purchasing from 
the music store, only the manipulation of tracks/books on the IPod Shuffle.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Damon 
  To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 11:15 AM
  Subject: [access-uk] Re: jaws scripts for ITunes

  brian, that's fabulous. This could be the thing that tips me into buying an 
MP3 player at last. 

  Will your scripts work with jaws 5? And which version of the iTunes software 
will you be basing it on? I understand that there is a new one that has either 
just launched or is about to launch that also has Podcast functionality built 
into its core. 

  Incidentally, my girlfriend has an iPod and so we have iTunes installed on 
this computer. If I get my own iPod, will it mean I can share the songs she has 
downloaded for herself from the iTunes store? Any ideas? 

  Cheers, waiting with baited breath.


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Brian Hartgen 
    To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 4:32 PM
    Subject: [access-uk] jaws scripts for ITunes

    Members of the BCAB list may have seen my message to the effect that 
audible.co.uk was officially launched on 15 June.  All the prices on the site 
are now in British pounds, they have a British phone number on there to contact 
them if you want to, and there is British content on the site as well as the 
existing material.  There are British people on the end of the phone line too 
(smile)! I know, I've spoken to them.

    Given that Audible.co.uk are now offering a free IPod Shuffle if you sign 
up for one of their listener plans, and because there are problems with 
transferring audible books using Annapod explorer, I have decided to create 
some jaws scripts for ITunes to make ITunes a totally keyboard accessible 
program as far as I can.  Now that audible.co.uk is properly up and running, I 
am really keen to promote it as of course any source of audio books is a good 
thing.  Added to this, if we have a situation where a visually impaired person 
can get the IPod Shuffle and not have to pay anything additional, this is a 

    These scripts will be free of charge, basically because I am creating them 
since I personally want access to ITunes and the Shuffle to transfer books from
    audible.  They should be ready for anyone who would like them some time 
within the next two weeks, and if people would like them as and when, please 
    me a message.
    At the moment, the following features are included.  Please remember I am 
at an early stage with this.
    1. I have included the ability to track focus in the various lists, for 
example what I call the main category list displaying such items as "library, 
    music store, etc."  The good thing is that my scripts do not depend upon 
highlight colour assignments to track the focus.  This should also apply to the
    list of songs in the opposite list which shows which songs are on the IPod 
Shuffle, although this has not been tested yet as I am awaiting my new IPod
    from Audible.
    2. The concept behind these scripts is that everything should be accessible 
from the keyboard.  Therefore, we have a keystroke which moves you directly
    into the library area where all the music or books are stored.  Once there, 
you can use navigational keystrokes to move forward and back through the 
available songs or books in your library. Jaws will
    announce the song in the library as you move to it, and will advise you 
when you get to the top or bottom of the list.
    3. If you use the library navigation keys to find a song you wish to 
manipulate in the library such as to play it or delete it, use a separate 
keystroke to select it, whereupon it can be manipulated.
    4. The other thing I have done is to make it possible to drag and drop into 
ITunes from windows explorer, and this seems to work well with audible books.
     You find the file you want, copy it to the clipboard with control+C, then 
alt+tab over to ITunes, and hit control+V to paste it in there.

    That's about it for the moment, but if anyone has any further suggestions, 
feel free to let me know.

    Brian Hartgen

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