[access-uk] Re: jaws scripts for ITunes

  • From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 17:26:42 +0100

Hi Brian,
Why use Itunes at all, when the Red Chair Software's Ipod Explorer is
supposed to be accessible out of the box?
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Brian Hartgen
Sent: 25 June 2005 13:12
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: jaws scripts for ITunes

It comes with the IPod, but you may not have the latest version which is
4.8. So you should download it.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Andy  <mailto:Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Collins 
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 12:52 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: jaws scripts for ITunes

Will the I-Tunes software come with the Shuffle from Audible, or does it
have to be downloaded from somewhere else? Is it a free programme?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Damon <mailto:damon.rose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 11:15 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: jaws scripts for ITunes

brian, that's fabulous. This could be the thing that tips me into buying an
MP3 player at last. 
Will your scripts work with jaws 5? And which version of the iTunes software
will you be basing it on? I understand that there is a new one that has
either just launched or is about to launch that also has Podcast
functionality built into its core. 
Incidentally, my girlfriend has an iPod and so we have iTunes installed on
this computer. If I get my own iPod, will it mean I can share the songs she
has downloaded for herself from the iTunes store? Any ideas? 
Cheers, waiting with baited breath.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Brian  <mailto:brian@xxxxxxxxxxx> Hartgen 
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 4:32 PM
Subject: [access-uk] jaws scripts for ITunes

Members of the BCAB list may have seen my message to the effect that
audible.co.uk was officially launched on 15 June.  All the prices on the
site are now in British pounds, they have a British phone number on there to
contact them if you want to, and there is British content on the site as
well as the existing material.  There are British people on the end of the
phone line too (smile)! I know, I've spoken to them.
Given that Audible.co.uk are now offering a free IPod Shuffle if you sign up
for one of their listener plans, and because there are problems with
transferring audible books using Annapod explorer, I have decided to create
some jaws scripts for ITunes to make ITunes a totally keyboard accessible
program as far as I can.  Now that audible.co.uk is properly up and running,
I am really keen to promote it as of course any source of audio books is a
good thing.  Added to this, if we have a situation where a visually impaired
person can get the IPod Shuffle and not have to pay anything additional,
this is a bonus.
These scripts will be free of charge, basically because I am creating them
since I personally want access to ITunes and the Shuffle to transfer books
audible.  They should be ready for anyone who would like them some time
within the next two weeks, and if people would like them as and when, please
me a message.
At the moment, the following features are included.  Please remember I am at
an early stage with this.
1. I have included the ability to track focus in the various lists, for
example what I call the main category list displaying such items as
"library, radio,
music store, etc."  The good thing is that my scripts do not depend upon
highlight colour assignments to track the focus.  This should also apply to
list of songs in the opposite list which shows which songs are on the IPod
Shuffle, although this has not been tested yet as I am awaiting my new IPod
from Audible.
2. The concept behind these scripts is that everything should be accessible
from the keyboard.  Therefore, we have a keystroke which moves you directly
into the library area where all the music or books are stored.  Once there,
you can use navigational keystrokes to move forward and back through the
available songs or books in your library. Jaws will
announce the song in the library as you move to it, and will advise you when
you get to the top or bottom of the list.
3. If you use the library navigation keys to find a song you wish to
manipulate in the library such as to play it or delete it, use a separate
keystroke to select it, whereupon it can be manipulated.
4. The other thing I have done is to make it possible to drag and drop into
ITunes from windows explorer, and this seems to work well with audible
 You find the file you want, copy it to the clipboard with control+C, then
alt+tab over to ITunes, and hit control+V to paste it in there.

That's about it for the moment, but if anyone has any further suggestions,
feel free to let me know.

Brian Hartgen


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