[access-uk] Re: XP AND FORMATTING

  • From: "Amro Bilal" <amro_bilal@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:41:01 +0100

Thanks as always for that George, that's useful to know. I wish I knew that
at the time when I formatted my hard disk *G*. Though it wasn't too bad I
had the necessary tools ready on my packing-up device.



Cheers for now,



Amro

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 4:01 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: XP AND FORMATTING


> Just quoting from Microsoft's own advice on the matter.
> Their original Firewall is not brilliant, and only one way,
> but it does plug the incoming holes sufficient to let you
> Update the system.  The sad thing is the MS didn't have the
> courage to turn it on by default, something they have
> rectified in SP2.=20
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Amro Bilal
> > Sent: 17 September 2004 15:32
> > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: XP AND FORMATTING
> >=20
> > Ah, sorry I didn't know that the XP firewall can block=20
> > Blaster. I thought one has to install that WinXP patch
> before=20
> > actually XP can pick Blaster up.
> > Or it maybe that the XP edition on my XP CD is pretty old.
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > Cheers,
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > Amro
> >=20
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 3:03 PM
> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: XP AND FORMATTING
> >=20
> >=20
> > > Hi Amro,
> > >
> > > Blaster is just one reason why I said right at the
> beginning
> > > to physically disconnect from the Internet, and then
> > > immediately after installation, turn on the Windows
> Firewall
> > > before reconnecting.
> > >
> > > It would also be wise, if possible, to have anti-virus
> > > software like AVG handy on a CD to install.
> > >
> > > Of course in an ideal world, one should also have the
> SP2 CD
> > > from Microsoft, and install that.
> > >
> > > George.
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> > > > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Amro
> Bilal
> > > > Sent: 17 September 2004 14:42
> > > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: XP AND FORMATTING
> > > >=3D20
> > > > Hello,
> > > >=3D20
> > > >=3D20
> > > >=3D20
> > > > Just to add to that, George and Joe, when I formatted
> my
> > > hard=3D20
> > > > drive about four months ago, as soon as I got online
> and=3D20
> > > > before I had time to update my anti-virus
> > > >=3D20
> > > > Definitions and go thru the Microsoft Windows Update
> > > process,=3D20
> > > > the W32 Blaster virus managed to hit my computer so
> I=3D20
> > > > couldn't stay online for more than 2 minutes. I don't
> know
> > > if=3D20
> > > > that is still relevant, however, if it happens it is
> not a
> > >
> > > > huge problem but it is a bloody irritating.
> Particularly
> > > when=3D20
> > > > you have a long to do list after formatting to get
> your=3D20
> > > > system back to normal. So I reckon it is wise to have
> the=3D20
> > > > Blaster virus removal tool and the Windows critical
> update
> > >
> > > > for that handy before formatting.
> > > >=3D20
> > > >=3D20
> > > >=3D20
> > > > Joe, I keep a copy of almost everything I download off
> the
> > >
> > > > net on my HD, so I can send you the tool and the Win
> > > update=3D20
> > > > off list if that is easier for you than tracking them
> from
> > >
> > > > the net. The only thing I'm not sure about is whether
> you
> > > can=3D20
> > > > actually install on your system a Windows update
> someone
> > > else=3D20
> > > > downloaded it.
> > > >=3D20
> > > >=3D20
> > > >=3D20
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >=3D20
> > > >=3D20
> > > >=3D20
> > > > Amro
> > > >=3D20
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 10:19 AM
> > > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: XP AND FORMATTING
> > > >=3D20
> > > >=3D20
> > > > > Hi Joe,
> > > > >
> > > > > In that case, she will indeed lose all data, so if
> there
> > > is
> > > > > anything she needs, now would be a good time to copy
> it
> > > to
> > > > > CD or floppy.
> > > > >
> > > > > First, disconnect from the Internet.  In other words
> > > remove
> > > > > any cables that connect to the outside world.
> > > > >
> > > > > The next hurdle is to go into the PC's BIOS and
> change
> > > it
> > > > > such that the PC boots up off the CD drive.
> > > Unfortunately,
> > > > > this is a process which cannot be done with speech,
> nor
> > > can
> > > > > I give you specific instructions on doing it, since
> > > BIOSs
> > > > > are many and varied.
> > > > >
> > > > > Given that you can achieve that, with the XP CD in
> the
> > > CD
> > > > > drive, you then power the system up.  There will be
> a
> > > brief
> > > > > display telling you to press any key to boot off the
> CD,
> > > > > which of course you must do.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you follow the prompts, which are quite logical
> and
> > > > > mostly common sense, you will arrive at a point
> where is
> > > > > asks you if you wish to create a completely new
> > > formatted
> > > > > system, and additionally it will ask you about
> > > partitioning
> > > > > the drive, and whether or not you wish the format to
> be
> > > > > NTFS.   =3D3D20
> > > > >
> > > > > I strongly recommend you use NTFS unless there is
> very
> > > good
> > > > > reason not to.  This format is intended for these
> larger
> > > > > drives.  If you do have some very old programs you
> must
> > > have
> > > > > access to, then it is better to create two
> partition,
> > > one
> > > > > being relatively small, for the older material.
> > > > >
> > > > > Aside from the fact that you have no speech during
> all
> > > this,
> > > > > the process is fairly straightforward.
> > > > >
> > > > > Once complete, the system will probably be barking
> at
> > > you to
> > > > > register and activate.  Hold on though.  Turn on
> XP's
> > > > > firewall, and if you have one, install anti-virus
> > > software.
> > > > > That's important.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now you can go back on to the Internet, though you
> will
> > > > > obviously have to set up your connections first.
> > > > >
> > > > > Before you do anything else, I very strongly
> recommend
> > > you
> > > > > go straight to the Microsoft Windows Update process,
> and
> > > > > download ALL Critical Updates.  This will plug a
> number
> > > of
> > > > > security holes in the system.  You may even get
> Service
> > > Pack
> > > > > 2 at this point, so be prepared for a hefty
> download.
> > > > >
> > > > > Once you've done that, again make sure your
> anti-virus
> > > > > definitions are up to date.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hopefully you'll be able to proceed at a more
> leisurely
> > > pace
> > > > > from there.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is a rather basic summary, but hopefully will
> get
> > > you
> > > > > there.
> > > > >
> > > > > All the best,
> > > > >
> > > > > George.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20
> > > > > > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of joe
> > > hunter
> > > > > > Sent: 17 September 2004 09:28
> > > > > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: XP AND FORMATTING
> > > > > >=3D3D20
> > > > > > hello george
> > > > > >=3D3D20
> > > > > > it has only one hard driveat forty gigs.
> > > > > > thanks.
> > > > > > joeAt 08:04 PM 9/16/04, you wrote:
> > > > > > >Hi Joe,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >You don't say if this is an additional hard
> drive, or
> > > if
> > > > > it=3D3D20
> > > > > > is the ONLY=3D3D20
> > > > > > >drive in the system.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Tell us which, and I'll try to go through it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >George.=3D3D3D20
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20
> > > > > > > > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> joe
> > > > > hunter
> > > > > > > > Sent: 16 September 2004 18:41
> > > > > > > > To: ACCESS-UK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > Subject: [access-uk] XP AND FORMATTING =3D3D3D20
> > > hELLO ALL,
> > > > > =3D3D3D20  MY=3D3D20
> > > > > > > >DAUGHTER WANTS ME TO FORMAT HER HD WHICH IS 40
> > > GIGS.  I
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > KNOW NOTHING ABOUT XP HOME EDISION WHICH IS
> THE OS
> > > SHE
> > > > > IS
> > > > > > >USING.
> > > > > > > >=3D3D3D20
> > > > > > > > IS THE RUN DIALOG THE SAME AS 98 SE OR
> DIFFERENT.
> > > > > > > >=3D3D3D20
> > > > > > > > I HAVE WARNED HER THAT SHE WILL LOOSE ALL HER
> DATA
> > > AND
> > > > > > >SHOULD=3D3D3D20
> > > > > > > > BACK UP WHERE NECESSARY.
> > > > > > > >=3D3D3D20
> > > > > > > > STEP BY STEP PLEASE.
> > > > > > > > THANKS.
> > > > > > > > JOE.=3D3D3D20
> > > > > > > >=3D3D3D20
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