Thanks as always for that George, that's useful to know. I wish I knew that at the time when I formatted my hard disk *G*. Though it wasn't too bad I had the necessary tools ready on my packing-up device. Cheers for now, Amro ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 4:01 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: XP AND FORMATTING > Just quoting from Microsoft's own advice on the matter. > Their original Firewall is not brilliant, and only one way, > but it does plug the incoming holes sufficient to let you > Update the system. The sad thing is the MS didn't have the > courage to turn it on by default, something they have > rectified in SP2.=20 > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20 > > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Amro Bilal > > Sent: 17 September 2004 15:32 > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: XP AND FORMATTING > >=20 > > Ah, sorry I didn't know that the XP firewall can block=20 > > Blaster. I thought one has to install that WinXP patch > before=20 > > actually XP can pick Blaster up. > > Or it maybe that the XP edition on my XP CD is pretty old. > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > Cheers, > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > Amro > >=20 > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 3:03 PM > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: XP AND FORMATTING > >=20 > >=20 > > > Hi Amro, > > > > > > Blaster is just one reason why I said right at the > beginning > > > to physically disconnect from the Internet, and then > > > immediately after installation, turn on the Windows > Firewall > > > before reconnecting. > > > > > > It would also be wise, if possible, to have anti-virus > > > software like AVG handy on a CD to install. > > > > > > Of course in an ideal world, one should also have the > SP2 CD > > > from Microsoft, and install that. > > > > > > George. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20 > > > > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Amro > Bilal > > > > Sent: 17 September 2004 14:42 > > > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: XP AND FORMATTING > > > >=3D20 > > > > Hello, > > > >=3D20 > > > >=3D20 > > > >=3D20 > > > > Just to add to that, George and Joe, when I formatted > my > > > hard=3D20 > > > > drive about four months ago, as soon as I got online > and=3D20 > > > > before I had time to update my anti-virus > > > >=3D20 > > > > Definitions and go thru the Microsoft Windows Update > > > process,=3D20 > > > > the W32 Blaster virus managed to hit my computer so > I=3D20 > > > > couldn't stay online for more than 2 minutes. I don't > know > > > if=3D20 > > > > that is still relevant, however, if it happens it is > not a > > > > > > > huge problem but it is a bloody irritating. > Particularly > > > when=3D20 > > > > you have a long to do list after formatting to get > your=3D20 > > > > system back to normal. So I reckon it is wise to have > the=3D20 > > > > Blaster virus removal tool and the Windows critical > update > > > > > > > for that handy before formatting. > > > >=3D20 > > > >=3D20 > > > >=3D20 > > > > Joe, I keep a copy of almost everything I download off > the > > > > > > > net on my HD, so I can send you the tool and the Win > > > update=3D20 > > > > off list if that is easier for you than tracking them > from > > > > > > > the net. The only thing I'm not sure about is whether > you > > > can=3D20 > > > > actually install on your system a Windows update > someone > > > else=3D20 > > > > downloaded it. > > > >=3D20 > > > >=3D20 > > > >=3D20 > > > > Cheers, > > > >=3D20 > > > >=3D20 > > > >=3D20 > > > > Amro > > > >=3D20 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 10:19 AM > > > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: XP AND FORMATTING > > > >=3D20 > > > >=3D20 > > > > > Hi Joe, > > > > > > > > > > In that case, she will indeed lose all data, so if > there > > > is > > > > > anything she needs, now would be a good time to copy > it > > > to > > > > > CD or floppy. > > > > > > > > > > First, disconnect from the Internet. In other words > > > remove > > > > > any cables that connect to the outside world. > > > > > > > > > > The next hurdle is to go into the PC's BIOS and > change > > > it > > > > > such that the PC boots up off the CD drive. > > > Unfortunately, > > > > > this is a process which cannot be done with speech, > nor > > > can > > > > > I give you specific instructions on doing it, since > > > BIOSs > > > > > are many and varied. > > > > > > > > > > Given that you can achieve that, with the XP CD in > the > > > CD > > > > > drive, you then power the system up. There will be > a > > > brief > > > > > display telling you to press any key to boot off the > CD, > > > > > which of course you must do. > > > > > > > > > > If you follow the prompts, which are quite logical > and > > > > > mostly common sense, you will arrive at a point > where is > > > > > asks you if you wish to create a completely new > > > formatted > > > > > system, and additionally it will ask you about > > > partitioning > > > > > the drive, and whether or not you wish the format to > be > > > > > NTFS. =3D3D20 > > > > > > > > > > I strongly recommend you use NTFS unless there is > very > > > good > > > > > reason not to. This format is intended for these > larger > > > > > drives. If you do have some very old programs you > must > > > have > > > > > access to, then it is better to create two > partition, > > > one > > > > > being relatively small, for the older material. > > > > > > > > > > Aside from the fact that you have no speech during > all > > > this, > > > > > the process is fairly straightforward. > > > > > > > > > > Once complete, the system will probably be barking > at > > > you to > > > > > register and activate. Hold on though. Turn on > XP's > > > > > firewall, and if you have one, install anti-virus > > > software. > > > > > That's important. > > > > > > > > > > Now you can go back on to the Internet, though you > will > > > > > obviously have to set up your connections first. > > > > > > > > > > Before you do anything else, I very strongly > recommend > > > you > > > > > go straight to the Microsoft Windows Update process, > and > > > > > download ALL Critical Updates. This will plug a > number > > > of > > > > > security holes in the system. You may even get > Service > > > Pack > > > > > 2 at this point, so be prepared for a hefty > download. > > > > > > > > > > Once you've done that, again make sure your > anti-virus > > > > > definitions are up to date. > > > > > > > > > > Hopefully you'll be able to proceed at a more > leisurely > > > pace > > > > > from there. > > > > > > > > > > This is a rather basic summary, but hopefully will > get > > > you > > > > > there. > > > > > > > > > > All the best, > > > > > > > > > > George. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20 > > > > > > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of joe > > > hunter > > > > > > Sent: 17 September 2004 09:28 > > > > > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: XP AND FORMATTING > > > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > > > hello george > > > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > > > it has only one hard driveat forty gigs. > > > > > > thanks. > > > > > > joeAt 08:04 PM 9/16/04, you wrote: > > > > > > >Hi Joe, > > > > > > > > > > > > > >You don't say if this is an additional hard > drive, or > > > if > > > > > it=3D3D20 > > > > > > is the ONLY=3D3D20 > > > > > > >drive in the system. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Tell us which, and I'll try to go through it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >George.=3D3D3D20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20 > > > > > > > > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > joe > > > > > hunter > > > > > > > > Sent: 16 September 2004 18:41 > > > > > > > > To: ACCESS-UK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > Subject: [access-uk] XP AND FORMATTING =3D3D3D20 > > > hELLO ALL, > > > > > =3D3D3D20 MY=3D3D20 > > > > > > > >DAUGHTER WANTS ME TO FORMAT HER HD WHICH IS 40 > > > GIGS. 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