Hi Ian, I prefer Braille on Android. At the moment you can't imput in Grade two, but it is coming very soon. But Apple's Braille is poorly implemented. Try typing slowly and watch it expand things to Grade two. What I call the Peopleotato syndrome. You are trying to type Potato, you pause and all of a sudden you have People there and have to delete it. This is just silly. Android won't suffer this I believe, because the main developer of Brailleback is blind. Also, if you don't like Brailleback on Android, you can use BRLTTY which does have Grade two. So yes, Android's Braille is better by dint of the fact it is so customisable. And don't even get me started on Apple not letting you change the Braille language independently of speech. If you have UK speech, you must have UK Braille, you can't have US for example. If it works for you, great, but Braille on iPhone is poorly implemented I'd say. All the best Steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ian Macrae Sent: 25 May 2013 17:01 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Samsung Galaxy or I-Phone 5 One of the things I like most about the iPhone is the ability to work easily with it using Braille. what's the score with Braille and Android? On 25 May 2013, at 13:27, John Gallagher wrote: > Hi Jackie I must say with my samsung I use the > nova launcher which gets rid of touch wiz I will > be at the chess championships tomorrow and will > take my samsung to mess about on it I must say > the samsung dictation is much better now and you can text with it. > At 13:04 25/05/2013, you wrote: >> Hi John >> >> I use the iPhone 5, having upgraded from the Nokia C5 about seven months >> ago. Now I have done it, I am glad as I use the iPhone for calls, text >> messages, apps, and now Twitter as well. >> >> But my son was here last week for our wedding, and he had his Galaxy S2 with >> him. I hadn't played around with one of these before, so I asked him to >> turn Talkback on so we could mess around with it for a while. >> >> This is just a personal view, but I prefer iOS simply because I have got >> used to it. But the two things I liked about Ian's Galaxy S2 were the sound >> and the Google voice. I think the speech on Android is excellent, and more >> preferable to Daniel I have to say. >> >> Navigating these things is similar, give or take a few gestures. While the >> S2 is probably no longer available, it was good to have a play with a Galaxy >> model. >> >> Good luck. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Jackie Brown >> Twitter: @thebrownsplace >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >> On Behalf Of John Farley >> Sent: 24 May 2013 18:42 >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] Samsung Galaxy or I-Phone 5 >> >> Hello list, >> >> I must apologise in advance, I have seen many subject lines similar to mine >> here, but at the time I had no interest in changing my phone and so did not >> follow those threads. >> >> I currently use a Nokia C5, which has done me proud and I have really liked >> it. However, I have now been told that the screen has just about had it and >> I feel that it should be replaced. >> >> Yes, I am aware that these can still be purchased and then TALKS can be >> transferred across to it, which would cost something over £210. I also feel >> that would be continuing on a dead line of technology and it might be better >> to move to something more modern, although at a greater price. >> >> It seems clear that the two outstanding competing offers at the moment are >> the Samsung Galaxy S4 and the I-Phone 5. >> >> I am a little uncomfortable about using a touch phone, is this really as >> easy as it may appear from the e-mails on this list? >> >> From a blind person's perspective, which is the better of the two to go for? >> >> I cannot help here too much with my requirement as I currently do not have a >> smart phone and therefore do not know which features I would want to use. >> >> Clearly, I want to make phone calls and handle text messages. >> Additionally it might be good to have proper access to the internet etc. >> I do not know if I would want to go as far as e=-mails, simply due to the >> number I get daily from the various lists I am a member of which currently >> get filtered off into various folders in Outlook on my PC. >> >> Any personal experience in using such phones would be a good help for me in >> deciding which way to go. >> >> Many thanks in advance. >> >> Regards, John. >> >> >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> ** and in the Subject line type >> ** unsubscribe >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> ** immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> ** or send a message, to >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >> >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> ** and in the Subject line type >> ** unsubscribe >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> ** immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> ** or send a message, to >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq