[access-uk] Re: Samsung Galaxy or I-Phone 5
- From: "Hussein Patwa" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 14:45:37 +0100
Hello there,
I trust this message finds you well and that you have had a pleasant
weekend.
Thank you very much for your comment. I think perhaps there is a
misunderstanding in the interpretation of the term I used, and I of course
apologise for any confusion this may have caused.
You are of course correct in that TalkBack is built into the android
operating system. What I meant by add-on (and again I apologise if I used a
confusing term), is deaf structurally Voiceover on iOS has deeper hooks into
the operating system and in all areas compared to TalkBack on Android. This
is why there are few if any Apple-developed areas of the operating system
that are inaccessible (maps is the only one that currently springs to mind
and even then inaccessibility is partial). On the other hand, in terms of
code TalkBack does not have the same level of hooks into all parts of the
operating system which is why accessibility using it is patchy. This is
also why, for example, you cannot disable TalkBack and re-enable it with a
gesture as you can with Voiceover, and why therefore sighted assistance is
necessary to re-enable TalkBack or accessibility once it has been disabled.
The latter is of course an important consideration for anyone using android
who does not have sighted support (unless of course you are never going to
turn off accessibility or prefer to use the device as-is without tinkering).
Having said that, let us not cause unnecessary concern in that even though I
refer to TalkBack as an add-on, it is a work in progress and accessibility
will only improve as the android operating system develops, and I would
certainly expect major improvements in android 5 when it is released later
this year.
I hope this clarifies any misunderstanding. Remember that when discussing
technology different people do use different terms even though they intend
the same meaning. This is a fact of life in the multilingual nature of our
world.
All the best for now and take care.
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 16 June 2013 10:01
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Samsung Galaxy or I-Phone 5
Hi,
For someone who is a supposed expert to say that accessibility is an add-on
in the Galaxy S4 then your expertise needs a little updating.
Talkback is built in and can easily be switched on in
Settings/Accessibility. How is this an add-on? You don't download it, it
is just there.
All the best
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Hussein Patwa
Sent: 15 June 2013 23:06
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Samsung Galaxy or I-Phone 5
Hi there,
Firstly, sorry for the late reply, but I'm just catching up with mails from
the list.
Having used both these phones, and knowing that accessibility is often a
major source of debate, I'll just speak from my own experience, but also
bear in mind I'd consider myself an expert user.
The iPhone is still the best phone for accessibility including for blind
users when compared to the Samsung. This is primarily due to the fact that
accessibility is built into the phone's operating system from the ground up.
With the Samsung, it's an add-on, and although very good it does have some
holes. the iPhone could be more expensive depending on how and where you
buy it, but I think for someone new to touch screens and who is totally
blind it's the better option.
I myself have now sold my iPhone and use the Samsung Galaxy S4 full time. I
have done extensive testing in 'blind mode' - that is, putting a black cover
over the screen to simulate having no sight, and I'm impressed. Then again,
as I said I consider myself an expert user so can work things out if I were
to get stuck.
Hope this helps, and do feel free to ask more questions re: the Galaxy if
you wish.
All the best for now and take care.
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Hussein Patwa
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of John Farley
Sent: 24 May 2013 18:42
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Samsung Galaxy or I-Phone 5
Hello list,
I must apologise in advance, I have seen many subject lines similar to mine
here, but at the time I had no interest in changing my phone and so did not
follow those threads.
I currently use a Nokia C5, which has done me proud and I have really liked
it. However, I have now been told that the screen has just about had it and
I feel that it should be replaced.
Yes, I am aware that these can still be purchased and then TALKS can be
transferred across to it, which would cost something over £210. I also feel
that would be continuing on a dead line of technology and it might be better
to move to something more modern, although at a greater price.
It seems clear that the two outstanding competing offers at the moment are
the Samsung Galaxy S4 and the I-Phone 5.
I am a little uncomfortable about using a touch phone, is this really as
easy as it may appear from the e-mails on this list?
From a blind person's perspective, which is the better of the two to go for?
I cannot help here too much with my requirement as I currently do not have a
smart phone and therefore do not know which features I would want to use.
Clearly, I want to make phone calls and handle text messages.
Additionally it might be good to have proper access to the internet etc.
I do not know if I would want to go as far as e=-mails, simply due to the
number I get daily from the various lists I am a member of which currently
get filtered off into various folders in Outlook on my PC.
Any personal experience in using such phones would be a good help for me in
deciding which way to go.
Many thanks in advance.
Regards, John.
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