[access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:52:46 +0100
Hi,
Of course you can upgrade the OS. In fact you can do it over the air and
without sight.
All the best
Steve
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Kevin Cussick
Sent: 16 July 2012 10:04
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
Yes thanks for that, I did a little googleing around and found this out.
seems bad that you can't upgrade the OS or have I got this wrong. and
Steve you can upgrade the OS on the Iphone platform.
On 16/07/2012 09:52, Vince Thacker wrote:
> Jelly Bean is a nickname for Android 4.1. ~They all seem to be named
> after American sweets. What's next? Corn Syrup Surprise?
>
> Vince.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Cussick"
> <the.big.white.shepherd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 8:30 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Sorry what is this jellybean tell me more please.
>>
>> On 15/07/2012 10:50, william lomas wrote:
>>> however jellybean is only really worth it for those with a nexus i
>>> find the ICS implementation clunky at best and find nokia and iphone
>>> much smoother.
>>> it willt take months! for sony to release the jellybean update,
>>> whereas the nexus will receive it instantatinously
>>> so what's the point?
>>> battery life on an android for me at least is only a couple of hours
>>> usage
>>>
>>>> Hi Mo,
>>>>
>>>> This is an excellent analysis, and pretty much what I said on my
>>>> podcast.
>>>>
>>>> Android is even more accessible with the advent of Jellybean.
>>>>
>>>> All the best
>>>>
>>>> Steve
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>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>> Behalf Of
>>>> Mobeen Iqbal
>>>> Sent: 14 July 2012 15:48
>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>>>>
>>>> £300? or £150 or what ever it is for a download? have they actually
>>>> written any applications? the article doesn't say if we can download a
>>>> demo of the programs available. What if you don't like it once you've
>>>> bought it? with mobile accessibility, its obvious what the app does and
>>>> you can try it out. And its cheaper. fair enough people have to make
>>>> some money, but Android is open source and most apps are free and the
>>>> ones that aren't are low cost and affordable. I thought that, for that
>>>> price we'd have something more than an app that tells us bus times. And
>>>> as this phone is marketed at everyone, why don't they provide an
>>>> overlay
>>>> if its exclusively touch screen? Maybe they're hoping that we all use
>>>> our handset of choice and by their software but android is totally
>>>> accessible as it is! there are plenty of apps to choose from. I have
>>>> one
>>>> my self, if 1 app doesn't work for me i find another one or contact the
>>>> developer and most times they can make it accessible. what's special
>>>> about this software? in business terms, the unique selling point? Yes
>>>> they provide OCR functions, but you could use google goggles for
>>>> that to
>>>> an extent. and how good is the OCR? again noone can comment because a
>>>> trial isn't available! It will have to ad a lot of bells and wistles to
>>>> an already accessible product to warrant me spending any more money
>>>> than
>>>> i already have on mobile accessibility etc. If they have indeed written
>>>> a screen reader from scratch, we've already got a choice of 3 screen
>>>> readers spiel, google talkback, and mobile accessibility. From the
>>>> following page, it seems that many functions may already have an
>>>> accessible app available free of charge. These guys are charging to set
>>>> the phone up for you remotely, provide access to specific apps they've
>>>> either written or gotten from the android market, and provide a simpler
>>>> home screen as well as standard functions, calling, texting contacts
>>>> etc. Remote control of a handset could be seen as a privacy risk for
>>>> some. This product aims to have a 5 button approach to simplify things,
>>>> where are the buttons? the phones offered seem to be mainly touch
>>>> screen, i personally find it slower to use a touch screen as many
>>>> people
>>>> i know do. if i can make a call to a contact from the stock android app
>>>> by holding my finger over the contact, why would i need this app?
>>>> Yes we
>>>> need phones set up for us, but honestly its not hard at all! there are
>>>> plenty of online guides and sometimes you can even have the people in
>>>> the shop set it up for you. I bought my android handset for £120, i had
>>>> someone sighted go in to settings and tick accessibility and after that
>>>> it was plain sailing. Here is the sight and sound link for anyone
>>>> that's
>>>> interested, but this reminds me strongly of the owasys handset or how
>>>> ever you spell it. I'm very glad i didn't buy it when it was
>>>> released. i
>>>> crashed it the first time i used it just by flicking through ringtones
>>>> too fast! luckily symbian handsets came a long soon after and it was a
>>>> pleasure to switch. the link is:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.sightandsound.co.uk/shop/products.php?product=GEORGIE
>>>>
>>>> The product makes no mention of providing functionality to do the
>>>> following:
>>>> changing phone settings other than WiFi.
>>>> email functionality.
>>>> browsing the android market.
>>>> access to a web browser.
>>>> an alarm clock or clock of some kind.
>>>> a calendar.
>>>>
>>>> You may as well buy mobile accessibility, download google maps,
>>>> download
>>>> colour recogniser, perhaps download google goggles and have done with
>>>> it. I've been setting up handsets for people for years and haven't
>>>> charged anything for doing it if its a quick job which most of the time
>>>> it is.
>>>>
>>>> Mo.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 14/07/2012 15:24, Eleanor Burke wrote:
>>>>> Maybe your friends at Sight & sound, are't they marketing it?
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Cairns"
>>>>> <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 3:10 PM
>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Eleanor
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ah, yes, the Owasys! I do remember it. I have to say it's easily
>>>>>> forgetable
>>>>>> too, a complete rip-off in terms of value for money.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was just curious about the new handset though as, no matter how
>>>>>> much voice
>>>>>> assistance there is, you are still using a touch-screen from what
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> article says, and this is the stumbling block for those with
>>>>>> dexterity
>>>>>> problems, and for those who simply don't want to use a touch-screen.
>>>>>> I was
>>>>>> really wondering if anyone had come across it so they could say. If
>>>>>> it has
>>>>>> a place that bridges the gap for some folk, then fine, but it just
>>>>>> made me
>>>>>> wonder why.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am sure that if anyone is visiting Sight Village, it will be on
>>>>>> display at
>>>>>> least. Perhaps someone could report back?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jackie Cairns
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>>> Eleanor Burke
>>>>>> Sent: 14 July 2012 14:59
>>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well Jackie I don't know any more than yourself but do you recall
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> dreaded Oasis or something or other from RNIB. I nearly bought it
>>>>>> as my
>>>>>> first phone with speech, thank Heavens I didn't. Maybe someone has
>>>>>> decided
>>>>>> that blind people again need something basic. I have to say I
>>>>>> love the
>>>>>> Symbian Nokia phones.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 2:52 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Forgive me, but having read the article via the link Tom posted, is
>>>>>>> this not reinventing the wheel, or have I missed something? Why
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> a Smartphone touch-screen mobile for blind and visually impaired
>>>>>>> people with specific apps when you can already access either
>>>>>>> Apple or
>>>>>>> Android handsets?
>>>>>>> Hoping
>>>>>>> someone might clarify the point of having such a phone in
>>>>>>> addition to
>>>>>>> what is already out there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jackie Cairns
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Tom Lorimer
>>>>>>> Sent: 14 July 2012 11:43
>>>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Try this link:
>>>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18818279
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: jeff flint <mailto:jeffflint15@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 10:54 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My brother in Australia heard a report from England that a new
>>>>>>> mobile
>>>>>>> phone, with lots of bells an whistles, was launched last Thursday in
>>>>>>> London.
>>>>>>> Does anybody know anything about it?
>>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>>
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