Hi, Not yet. That's what Sight Village is all about <Smile>. We will have podcasts on it after SV. All the best Steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: 01438-742286 Mob: 07956334938 Fax: 01438-759589 Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: 15 July 2012 17:51 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People do you have a podcast on jellybean steve on our place? On 15 Jul 2012, at 17:48, "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi Jackie, > > Yes, I have seen it twice. > > Once in March when the apps were under the banner of Safe And Sound, and I > was invited to the Georgie launch last week, where I played with the phone > for about 10 minutes in London. > > Yes, it is just a suite of apps, as I said, bit like Guide. It has some odd > quirks about it. For example, it supports audio blogging but not Email? It > also has no facility to input to the phone other than dialing numbers, other > than your voice. So you can't write a text message, since it has no > keyboard, you have to speak it. So if you are on a train, or have an attack > of laryngitis, or simply don't want to tell the world you are texting your > lover, it's a bit tricky <Smile>. It has one or two interesting apps, such > as OCR and grabbing data from the Nextbus database, but nothing that would > be compelling. > > And all this on a Galaxy Nexus, one of the best phones in the world. It was > a little bit bizarre to see such a nice phone brought to its knees <Smile>. > > Google's accessibility I would say with the advent of Jellybean, is almost > as good as the iPhone. But Georgie basically disables that and puts you > into a nice comfortable walled garden. > > It's not for me, but I'm sure it will be for some, expensive though it is. > > All the best > > Steve > -- > Computer Room Services > 77 Exeter Close > Stevenage > Hertfordshire > SG1 4PW > Tel: 01438-742286 > Mob: 07956334938 > Fax: 01438-759589 > Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk > > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > Jackie Cairns > Sent: 15 July 2012 15:39 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People > > Hi Steve > > Then you have obviously seen it? From purely a user perspective, why do you > pull it apart? > > I guess my concern is that it detracts from the work Apple and Android have > already done to make accessibility possible. The fact it is also named > after a guide dog just has a feel of segregation about it. For so long, we > have wanted to be on a level playing field. Now this is possible thanks to > Nuance, Apple and Android, along comes a suite of apps that will cost quite > a lot more than any apps I've ever seen in certainly the iTunes Store. > > But I haven't seen it, so am going from what is available to read. > > Kind Regards, > > Jackie Cairns > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > Steve Nutt > Sent: 15 July 2012 10:09 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People > > Hi Jackie and all, > > If you want what I consider to be a fair analysis of it, please listen to > our podcast at http://www.comproom.co.uk/ourplace. > > The direct link is http://www.comproom.co.uk/ourplace/op302-14-07-03.mp3. > > Angie and I pretty much pull it apart. The apps seem good, but the press > coverage is misleading. > > All the best > > Steve > -- > Computer Room Services > 77 Exeter Close > Stevenage > Hertfordshire > SG1 4PW > Tel: 01438-742286 > Mob: 07956334938 > Fax: 01438-759589 > Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk > > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > Jackie Cairns > Sent: 14 July 2012 15:34 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People > > Hi Eleanor > > I've just visited the S and S website and read a bit more about it. It > seems the specially written application works on a Smartphone, and that > there are different bundles one may purchase. > > As Martin and I are interested in assistive technology generally, we just > wondered what was different with this new setup to what is already out > there. But, again, if anyone is visiting SV and wishes to report back, that > would be helpful certainly. I have friends not subscribed to this list who > might benefit from good feedback. > > > Kind Regards, > > Jackie Cairns > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > Eleanor Burke > Sent: 14 July 2012 15:24 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People > > Maybe your friends at Sight & sound, are't they marketing it? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 3:10 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People > > >> Hi Eleanor >> >> Ah, yes, the Owasys! I do remember it. I have to say it's easily >> forgetable too, a complete rip-off in terms of value for money. >> >> I was just curious about the new handset though as, no matter how much >> voice assistance there is, you are still using a touch-screen from >> what the article says, and this is the stumbling block for those with >> dexterity problems, and for those who simply don't want to use a >> touch-screen. I was really wondering if anyone had come across it so >> they could say. If it has a place that bridges the gap for some folk, >> then fine, but it just made me wonder why. >> >> I am sure that if anyone is visiting Sight Village, it will be on >> display at least. Perhaps someone could report back? >> >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> Jackie Cairns >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf >> Of >> Eleanor Burke >> Sent: 14 July 2012 14:59 >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People >> >> Well Jackie I don't know any more than yourself but do you recall that >> dreaded Oasis or something or other from RNIB. I nearly bought it as my >> first phone with speech, thank Heavens I didn't. Maybe someone has >> decided >> that blind people again need something basic. I have to say I love the >> Symbian Nokia phones. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 2:52 PM >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People >> >> >>> Forgive me, but having read the article via the link Tom posted, is >>> this not reinventing the wheel, or have I missed something? Why have >>> a Smartphone touch-screen mobile for blind and visually impaired >>> people with specific apps when you can already access either Apple or >>> Android handsets? >>> Hoping >>> someone might clarify the point of having such a phone in addition to >>> what is already out there. >>> >>> >>> Kind Regards, >>> >>> Jackie Cairns >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >>> Behalf Of Tom Lorimer >>> Sent: 14 July 2012 11:43 >>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People >>> >>> Hi Jeff, >>> >>> Try this link: >>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18818279 >>> >>> Tom. >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: jeff flint <mailto:jeffflint15@xxxxxxxxx> >>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 10:54 AM >>> Subject: [access-uk] New Accessible Phone for Blind People >>> >>> My brother in Australia heard a report from England that a 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