Hi Steve Then you have obviously seen it? From purely a user perspective, why do you pull it apart? I guess my concern is that it detracts from the work Apple and Android have already done to make accessibility possible. The fact it is also named after a guide dog just has a feel of segregation about it. For so long, we have wanted to be on a level playing field. Now this is possible thanks to Nuance, Apple and Android, along comes a suite of apps that will cost quite a lot more than any apps I've ever seen in certainly the iTunes Store. But I haven't seen it, so am going from what is available to read. Kind Regards, Jackie Cairns -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: 15 July 2012 10:09 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People Hi Jackie and all, If you want what I consider to be a fair analysis of it, please listen to our podcast at http://www.comproom.co.uk/ourplace. The direct link is http://www.comproom.co.uk/ourplace/op302-14-07-03.mp3. Angie and I pretty much pull it apart. The apps seem good, but the press coverage is misleading. All the best Steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: 01438-742286 Mob: 07956334938 Fax: 01438-759589 Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns Sent: 14 July 2012 15:34 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People Hi Eleanor I've just visited the S and S website and read a bit more about it. It seems the specially written application works on a Smartphone, and that there are different bundles one may purchase. As Martin and I are interested in assistive technology generally, we just wondered what was different with this new setup to what is already out there. But, again, if anyone is visiting SV and wishes to report back, that would be helpful certainly. I have friends not subscribed to this list who might benefit from good feedback. Kind Regards, Jackie Cairns -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke Sent: 14 July 2012 15:24 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People Maybe your friends at Sight & sound, are't they marketing it? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 3:10 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People > Hi Eleanor > > Ah, yes, the Owasys! I do remember it. I have to say it's easily > forgetable too, a complete rip-off in terms of value for money. > > I was just curious about the new handset though as, no matter how much > voice assistance there is, you are still using a touch-screen from > what the article says, and this is the stumbling block for those with > dexterity problems, and for those who simply don't want to use a > touch-screen. I was really wondering if anyone had come across it so > they could say. If it has a place that bridges the gap for some folk, > then fine, but it just made me wonder why. > > I am sure that if anyone is visiting Sight Village, it will be on > display at least. Perhaps someone could report back? > > > Kind Regards, > > Jackie Cairns > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf > Of > Eleanor Burke > Sent: 14 July 2012 14:59 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People > > Well Jackie I don't know any more than yourself but do you recall that > dreaded Oasis or something or other from RNIB. I nearly bought it as my > first phone with speech, thank Heavens I didn't. Maybe someone has > decided > that blind people again need something basic. I have to say I love the > Symbian Nokia phones. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 2:52 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People > > >> Forgive me, but having read the article via the link Tom posted, is >> this not reinventing the wheel, or have I missed something? Why have >> a Smartphone touch-screen mobile for blind and visually impaired >> people with specific apps when you can already access either Apple or >> Android handsets? >> Hoping >> someone might clarify the point of having such a phone in addition to >> what is already out there. >> >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> Jackie Cairns >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >> Behalf Of Tom Lorimer >> Sent: 14 July 2012 11:43 >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People >> >> Hi Jeff, >> >> Try this link: >> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18818279 >> >> Tom. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: jeff flint <mailto:jeffflint15@xxxxxxxxx> >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 10:54 AM >> Subject: [access-uk] New Accessible Phone for Blind People >> >> My brother in Australia heard a report from England that a new mobile >> phone, with lots of bells an whistles, was launched last Thursday in >> London. >> Does anybody know anything about it? >> Jeff >> >> >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> ** and in the Subject line type >> ** unsubscribe >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> ** immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> ** or send a message, to >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >> > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq