[access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People

  • From: "jeff flint" <jeffflint15@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:02:36 +0100

Hi Steve
am I write in thinking that you like the Galaxy Nexus?
I utterly failed with the IPHONE, just too fiddly for me, and the battery died every two minutes or so, huge exaggeration but you know what I mean.
Jeff
----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 5:52 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People


Hi,

Not yet. That's what Sight Village is all about <Smile>.  We will have
podcasts on it after SV.

All the best

Steve
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
william lomas
Sent: 15 July 2012 17:51
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People

do you have a podcast on jellybean steve on our place?

On 15 Jul 2012, at 17:48, "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Jackie,

Yes, I have seen it twice.

Once in March when the apps were under the banner of Safe And Sound, and I was invited to the Georgie launch last week, where I played with the phone
for about 10 minutes in London.

Yes, it is just a suite of apps, as I said, bit like Guide.  It has some
odd
quirks about it.  For example, it supports audio blogging but not Email?
It
also has no facility to input to the phone other than dialing numbers,
other
than your voice.  So you can't write a text message, since it has no
keyboard, you have to speak it.  So if you are on a train, or have an
attack
of laryngitis, or simply don't want to tell the world you are texting your
lover, it's a bit tricky <Smile>.  It has one or two interesting apps,
such
as OCR and grabbing data from the Nextbus database, but nothing that would
be compelling.

And all this on a Galaxy Nexus, one of the best phones in the world.  It
was
a little bit bizarre to see such a nice phone brought to its knees
<Smile>.

Google's accessibility I would say with the advent of Jellybean, is almost
as good as the iPhone.  But Georgie basically disables that and puts you
into a nice comfortable walled garden.

It's not for me, but I'm sure it will be for some, expensive though it is.

All the best

Steve
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of
Jackie Cairns
Sent: 15 July 2012 15:39
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People

Hi Steve

Then you have obviously seen it?  From purely a user perspective, why do
you
pull it apart?

I guess my concern is that it detracts from the work Apple and Android
have
already done to make accessibility possible.  The fact it is also named
after a guide dog just has a feel of segregation about it.  For so long,
we
have wanted to be on a level playing field.  Now this is possible thanks
to
Nuance, Apple and Android, along comes a suite of apps that will cost
quite
a lot more than any apps I've ever seen in certainly the iTunes Store.

But I haven't seen it, so am going from what is available to read.

Kind Regards,

Jackie Cairns

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of
Steve Nutt
Sent: 15 July 2012 10:09
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People

Hi Jackie and all,

If you want what I consider to be a fair analysis of it, please listen to
our podcast at http://www.comproom.co.uk/ourplace.

The direct link is http://www.comproom.co.uk/ourplace/op302-14-07-03.mp3.

Angie and I pretty much pull it apart.  The apps seem good, but the press
coverage is misleading.

All the best

Steve
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of
Jackie Cairns
Sent: 14 July 2012 15:34
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People

Hi Eleanor

I've just visited the S and S website and read a bit more about it.  It
seems the specially written application works on a Smartphone, and that
there are different bundles one may purchase.

As Martin and I are interested in assistive technology generally, we just
wondered what was different with this new setup to what is already out
there.  But, again, if anyone is visiting SV and wishes to report back,
that
would be helpful certainly.  I have friends not subscribed to this list
who
might benefit from good feedback.


Kind Regards,

Jackie Cairns

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of
Eleanor Burke
Sent: 14 July 2012 15:24
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People

Maybe your friends at Sight & sound, are't they marketing it?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 3:10 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People


Hi Eleanor

Ah, yes, the Owasys! I do remember it.  I have to say it's easily
forgetable too, a complete rip-off in terms of value for money.

I was just curious about the new handset though as, no matter how much
voice assistance there is, you are still  using a touch-screen from
what the article says, and this is the stumbling block for those with
dexterity problems, and for those who simply don't want to use a
touch-screen.  I was really wondering if anyone had come across it so
they could say.  If it has a place that bridges the gap for some folk,
then fine, but it just made me wonder why.

I am sure that if anyone is visiting Sight Village, it will be on
display at least.  Perhaps someone could report back?


Kind Regards,

Jackie Cairns

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of
Eleanor Burke
Sent: 14 July 2012 14:59
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People

Well Jackie I don't know any more than yourself but do you recall that
dreaded Oasis or something or other from RNIB.  I nearly bought it as my
first phone with speech, thank Heavens I didn't.  Maybe someone has
decided
that blind people again need something basic.  I have to say I love the
Symbian Nokia phones.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 2:52 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People


Forgive me, but having read the article via the link Tom posted, is
this not reinventing the wheel, or have I missed something?  Why have
a Smartphone touch-screen mobile for blind and visually impaired
people with specific apps when  you can already access either Apple or
Android handsets?
Hoping
someone might clarify the point of having such a phone in addition to
what is already out there.


Kind Regards,

Jackie Cairns

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Tom Lorimer
Sent: 14 July 2012 11:43
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People

Hi Jeff,

Try this link:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18818279

Tom.


----- Original Message -----
From: jeff flint <mailto:jeffflint15@xxxxxxxxx>
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 10:54 AM
Subject: [access-uk] New Accessible Phone for Blind People

My brother in Australia heard a report from England that a new mobile
phone, with lots of bells an whistles, was launched last Thursday in
London.
Does anybody know anything about it?
Jeff


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