[access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
- From: william lomas <will.d.lomas@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 17:50:41 +0100
do you have a podcast on jellybean steve on our place?
On 15 Jul 2012, at 17:48, "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Jackie,
>
> Yes, I have seen it twice.
>
> Once in March when the apps were under the banner of Safe And Sound, and I
> was invited to the Georgie launch last week, where I played with the phone
> for about 10 minutes in London.
>
> Yes, it is just a suite of apps, as I said, bit like Guide. It has some odd
> quirks about it. For example, it supports audio blogging but not Email? It
> also has no facility to input to the phone other than dialing numbers, other
> than your voice. So you can't write a text message, since it has no
> keyboard, you have to speak it. So if you are on a train, or have an attack
> of laryngitis, or simply don't want to tell the world you are texting your
> lover, it's a bit tricky <Smile>. It has one or two interesting apps, such
> as OCR and grabbing data from the Nextbus database, but nothing that would
> be compelling.
>
> And all this on a Galaxy Nexus, one of the best phones in the world. It was
> a little bit bizarre to see such a nice phone brought to its knees <Smile>.
>
> Google's accessibility I would say with the advent of Jellybean, is almost
> as good as the iPhone. But Georgie basically disables that and puts you
> into a nice comfortable walled garden.
>
> It's not for me, but I'm sure it will be for some, expensive though it is.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Jackie Cairns
> Sent: 15 July 2012 15:39
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>
> Hi Steve
>
> Then you have obviously seen it? From purely a user perspective, why do you
> pull it apart?
>
> I guess my concern is that it detracts from the work Apple and Android have
> already done to make accessibility possible. The fact it is also named
> after a guide dog just has a feel of segregation about it. For so long, we
> have wanted to be on a level playing field. Now this is possible thanks to
> Nuance, Apple and Android, along comes a suite of apps that will cost quite
> a lot more than any apps I've ever seen in certainly the iTunes Store.
>
> But I haven't seen it, so am going from what is available to read.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Jackie Cairns
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Steve Nutt
> Sent: 15 July 2012 10:09
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>
> Hi Jackie and all,
>
> If you want what I consider to be a fair analysis of it, please listen to
> our podcast at http://www.comproom.co.uk/ourplace.
>
> The direct link is http://www.comproom.co.uk/ourplace/op302-14-07-03.mp3.
>
> Angie and I pretty much pull it apart. The apps seem good, but the press
> coverage is misleading.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Jackie Cairns
> Sent: 14 July 2012 15:34
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>
> Hi Eleanor
>
> I've just visited the S and S website and read a bit more about it. It
> seems the specially written application works on a Smartphone, and that
> there are different bundles one may purchase.
>
> As Martin and I are interested in assistive technology generally, we just
> wondered what was different with this new setup to what is already out
> there. But, again, if anyone is visiting SV and wishes to report back, that
> would be helpful certainly. I have friends not subscribed to this list who
> might benefit from good feedback.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Jackie Cairns
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Eleanor Burke
> Sent: 14 July 2012 15:24
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>
> Maybe your friends at Sight & sound, are't they marketing it?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 3:10 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>
>
>> Hi Eleanor
>>
>> Ah, yes, the Owasys! I do remember it. I have to say it's easily
>> forgetable too, a complete rip-off in terms of value for money.
>>
>> I was just curious about the new handset though as, no matter how much
>> voice assistance there is, you are still using a touch-screen from
>> what the article says, and this is the stumbling block for those with
>> dexterity problems, and for those who simply don't want to use a
>> touch-screen. I was really wondering if anyone had come across it so
>> they could say. If it has a place that bridges the gap for some folk,
>> then fine, but it just made me wonder why.
>>
>> I am sure that if anyone is visiting Sight Village, it will be on
>> display at least. Perhaps someone could report back?
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Jackie Cairns
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>> Of
>> Eleanor Burke
>> Sent: 14 July 2012 14:59
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>>
>> Well Jackie I don't know any more than yourself but do you recall that
>> dreaded Oasis or something or other from RNIB. I nearly bought it as my
>> first phone with speech, thank Heavens I didn't. Maybe someone has
>> decided
>> that blind people again need something basic. I have to say I love the
>> Symbian Nokia phones.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 2:52 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>>
>>
>>> Forgive me, but having read the article via the link Tom posted, is
>>> this not reinventing the wheel, or have I missed something? Why have
>>> a Smartphone touch-screen mobile for blind and visually impaired
>>> people with specific apps when you can already access either Apple or
>>> Android handsets?
>>> Hoping
>>> someone might clarify the point of having such a phone in addition to
>>> what is already out there.
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Jackie Cairns
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>> Behalf Of Tom Lorimer
>>> Sent: 14 July 2012 11:43
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>>>
>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>
>>> Try this link:
>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18818279
>>>
>>> Tom.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: jeff flint <mailto:jeffflint15@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 10:54 AM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>>>
>>> My brother in Australia heard a report from England that a new mobile
>>> phone, with lots of bells an whistles, was launched last Thursday in
>>> London.
>>> Does anybody know anything about it?
>>> Jeff
>>>
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