Hi Steve, I'm not a touchy feely person so these phones are not for me. Which, in your opinion, are the best phones with a proper numeric keyboard and speech access. Jim Williams -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: 15 July 2012 18:47 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People Hi, Yes, I love the Nexus. But touch screens are not for everybody, I appreciate that. But if you can get into them, there are some pretty awesome phones around now, the Nexus, the Galaxy S3, to name just two. All the best Steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: 01438-742286 Mob: 07956334938 Fax: 01438-759589 Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of jeff flint Sent: 15 July 2012 18:03 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People Hi Steve am I write in thinking that you like the Galaxy Nexus? I utterly failed with the IPHONE, just too fiddly for me, and the battery died every two minutes or so, huge exaggeration but you know what I mean. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 5:52 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People > Hi, > > Not yet. That's what Sight Village is all about <Smile>. We will have > podcasts on it after SV. > > All the best > > Steve > -- > Computer Room Services > 77 Exeter Close > Stevenage > Hertfordshire > SG1 4PW > Tel: 01438-742286 > Mob: 07956334938 > Fax: 01438-759589 > Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk > > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of william lomas > Sent: 15 July 2012 17:51 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People > > do you have a podcast on jellybean steve on our place? > > On 15 Jul 2012, at 17:48, "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Hi Jackie, >> >> Yes, I have seen it twice. >> >> Once in March when the apps were under the banner of Safe And Sound, >> and I was invited to the Georgie launch last week, where I played >> with the phone for about 10 minutes in London. >> >> Yes, it is just a suite of apps, as I said, bit like Guide. It has >> some > odd >> quirks about it. For example, it supports audio blogging but not Email? > It >> also has no facility to input to the phone other than dialing >> numbers, > other >> than your voice. So you can't write a text message, since it has no >> keyboard, you have to speak it. So if you are on a train, or have an > attack >> of laryngitis, or simply don't want to tell the world you are texting >> your lover, it's a bit tricky <Smile>. It has one or two interesting >> apps, > such >> as OCR and grabbing data from the Nextbus database, but nothing that >> would be compelling. >> >> And all this on a Galaxy Nexus, one of the best phones in the world. >> It > was >> a little bit bizarre to see such a nice phone brought to its knees > <Smile>. >> >> Google's accessibility I would say with the advent of Jellybean, is >> almost as good as the iPhone. But Georgie basically disables that >> and puts you into a nice comfortable walled garden. >> >> It's not for me, but I'm sure it will be for some, expensive though >> it is. >> >> All the best >> >> Steve >> -- >> Computer Room Services >> 77 Exeter Close >> Stevenage >> Hertfordshire >> SG1 4PW >> Tel: 01438-742286 >> Mob: 07956334938 >> Fax: 01438-759589 >> Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >> Behalf > Of >> Jackie Cairns >> Sent: 15 July 2012 15:39 >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People >> >> Hi Steve >> >> Then you have obviously seen it? From purely a user perspective, why >> do > you >> pull it apart? >> >> I guess my concern is that it detracts from the work Apple and >> Android > have >> already done to make accessibility possible. The fact it is also >> named after a guide dog just has a feel of segregation about it. For >> so long, > we >> have wanted to be on a level playing field. Now this is possible >> thanks > to >> Nuance, Apple and Android, along comes a suite of apps that will cost > quite >> a lot more than any apps I've ever seen in certainly the iTunes Store. >> >> But I haven't seen it, so am going from what is available to read. >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> Jackie Cairns >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >> Behalf > Of >> Steve Nutt >> Sent: 15 July 2012 10:09 >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People >> >> Hi Jackie and all, >> >> If you want what I consider to be a fair analysis of it, please >> listen to our podcast at http://www.comproom.co.uk/ourplace. >> >> The direct link is http://www.comproom.co.uk/ourplace/op302-14-07-03.mp3. >> >> Angie and I pretty much pull it apart. The apps seem good, but the >> press coverage is misleading. >> >> All the best >> >> Steve >> -- >> Computer Room Services >> 77 Exeter Close >> Stevenage >> Hertfordshire >> SG1 4PW >> Tel: 01438-742286 >> Mob: 07956334938 >> Fax: 01438-759589 >> Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >> Behalf > Of >> Jackie Cairns >> Sent: 14 July 2012 15:34 >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People >> >> Hi Eleanor >> >> I've just visited the S and S website and read a bit more about it. >> It seems the specially written application works on a Smartphone, and >> that there are different bundles one may purchase. >> >> As Martin and I are interested in assistive technology generally, we >> just wondered what was different with this new setup to what is >> already out there. But, again, if anyone is visiting SV and wishes >> to report back, > that >> would be helpful certainly. I have friends not subscribed to this >> list > who >> might benefit from good feedback. >> >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> Jackie Cairns >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >> Behalf > Of >> Eleanor Burke >> Sent: 14 July 2012 15:24 >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People >> >> Maybe your friends at Sight & sound, are't they marketing it? >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 3:10 PM >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People >> >> >>> Hi Eleanor >>> >>> Ah, yes, the Owasys! I do remember it. I have to say it's easily >>> forgetable too, a complete rip-off in terms of value for money. >>> >>> I was just curious about the new handset though as, no matter how >>> much voice assistance there is, you are still using a touch-screen >>> from what the article says, and this is the stumbling block for >>> those with dexterity problems, and for those who simply don't want >>> to use a touch-screen. I was really wondering if anyone had come >>> across it so they could say. If it has a place that bridges the gap >>> for some folk, then fine, but it just made me wonder why. >>> >>> I am sure that if anyone is visiting Sight Village, it will be on >>> display at least. Perhaps someone could report back? >>> >>> >>> Kind Regards, >>> >>> Jackie Cairns >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >>> Behalf Of Eleanor Burke >>> Sent: 14 July 2012 14:59 >>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People >>> >>> Well Jackie I don't know any more than yourself but do you recall >>> that dreaded Oasis or something or other from RNIB. I nearly bought >>> it as my first phone with speech, thank Heavens I didn't. Maybe >>> someone has decided that blind people again need something basic. I >>> have to say I love the Symbian Nokia phones. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 2:52 PM >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People >>> >>> >>>> Forgive me, but having read the article via the link Tom posted, is >>>> this not reinventing the wheel, or have I missed something? Why >>>> have a Smartphone touch-screen mobile for blind and visually >>>> impaired people with specific apps when you can already access >>>> either Apple or Android handsets? >>>> Hoping >>>> someone might clarify the point of having such a phone in addition >>>> to what is already out there. >>>> >>>> >>>> Kind Regards, >>>> >>>> Jackie Cairns >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >>>> Behalf Of Tom Lorimer >>>> Sent: 14 July 2012 11:43 >>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People >>>> >>>> Hi Jeff, >>>> >>>> Try this link: >>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18818279 >>>> >>>> Tom. >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: jeff flint <mailto:jeffflint15@xxxxxxxxx> >>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 10:54 AM >>>> Subject: [access-uk] New Accessible Phone for Blind People >>>> >>>> My brother in Australia 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