thanks so much, this feed back is so helpful. Jeff----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 6:46 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
Hi,Yes, I love the Nexus. But touch screens are not for everybody, I appreciatethat. But if you can get into them, there are some pretty awesome phones around now, the Nexus, the Galaxy S3, to name just two. All the best Steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: 01438-742286 Mob: 07956334938 Fax: 01438-759589 Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk -----Original Message-----From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Ofjeff flint Sent: 15 July 2012 18:03 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People Hi Steve am I write in thinking that you like the Galaxy Nexus? I utterly failed with the IPHONE, just too fiddly for me, and the battery died every two minutes or so, huge exaggeration but you know what I mean. Jeff----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 5:52 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind PeopleHi, Not yet. That's what Sight Village is all about <Smile>. We will have podcasts on it after SV. All the best Steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: 01438-742286 Mob: 07956334938 Fax: 01438-759589 Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: 15 July 2012 17:51 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People do you have a podcast on jellybean steve on our place? On 15 Jul 2012, at 17:48, "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Hi Jackie, Yes, I have seen it twice. Once in March when the apps were under the banner of Safe And Sound, and I was invited to the Georgie launch last week, where I played with the phone for about 10 minutes in London. Yes, it is just a suite of apps, as I said, bit like Guide. It has someoddquirks about it. For example, it supports audio blogging but not Email?Italso has no facility to input to the phone other than dialing numbers,otherthan your voice. So you can't write a text message, since it has no keyboard, you have to speak it. So if you are on a train, or have anattackof laryngitis, or simply don't want to tell the world you are texting your lover, it's a bit tricky <Smile>. It has one or two interesting apps,suchas OCR and grabbing data from the Nextbus database, but nothing that would be compelling. And all this on a Galaxy Nexus, one of the best phones in the world. Itwasa little bit bizarre to see such a nice phone brought to its knees<Smile>.Google's accessibility I would say with the advent of Jellybean, is almost as good as the iPhone. But Georgie basically disables that and puts you into a nice comfortable walled garden. It's not for me, but I'm sure it will be for some, expensive though it is. All the best Steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: 01438-742286 Mob: 07956334938 Fax: 01438-759589 Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On BehalfOfJackie Cairns Sent: 15 July 2012 15:39 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People Hi Steve Then you have obviously seen it? From purely a user perspective, why doyoupull it apart? I guess my concern is that it detracts from the work Apple and Androidhavealready done to make accessibility possible. The fact it is also named after a guide dog just has a feel of segregation about it. For so long,wehave wanted to be on a level playing field. Now this is possible thankstoNuance, Apple and Android, along comes a suite of apps that will costquitea lot more than any apps I've ever seen in certainly the iTunes Store. But I haven't seen it, so am going from what is available to read. Kind Regards, Jackie Cairns -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On BehalfOfSteve Nutt Sent: 15 July 2012 10:09 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People Hi Jackie and all,If you want what I consider to be a fair analysis of it, please listen toour podcast at http://www.comproom.co.uk/ourplace.The direct link is http://www.comproom.co.uk/ourplace/op302-14-07-03.mp3.Angie and I pretty much pull it apart. The apps seem good, but the presscoverage is misleading. All the best Steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: 01438-742286 Mob: 07956334938 Fax: 01438-759589 Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On BehalfOfJackie Cairns Sent: 14 July 2012 15:34 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People Hi Eleanor I've just visited the S and S website and read a bit more about it. It seems the specially written application works on a Smartphone, and that there are different bundles one may purchase.As Martin and I are interested in assistive technology generally, we justwondered what was different with this new setup to what is already out there. But, again, if anyone is visiting SV and wishes to report back,thatwould be helpful certainly. I have friends not subscribed to this listwhomight benefit from good feedback. Kind Regards, Jackie Cairns -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On BehalfOfEleanor Burke Sent: 14 July 2012 15:24 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People Maybe your friends at Sight & sound, are't they marketing it? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 3:10 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind PeopleHi Eleanor Ah, yes, the Owasys! I do remember it. I have to say it's easily forgetable too, a complete rip-off in terms of value for money. I was just curious about the new handset though as, no matter how much voice assistance there is, you are still using a touch-screen from what the article says, and this is the stumbling block for those with dexterity problems, and for those who simply don't want to use a touch-screen. I was really wondering if anyone had come across it so they could say. If it has a place that bridges the gap for some folk, then fine, but it just made me wonder why. I am sure that if anyone is visiting Sight Village, it will be on display at least. Perhaps someone could report back? Kind Regards, Jackie Cairns -----Original Message-----From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On BehalfOf Eleanor Burke Sent: 14 July 2012 14:59 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People Well Jackie I don't know any more than yourself but do you recall thatdreaded Oasis or something or other from RNIB. I nearly bought it as myfirst phone with speech, thank Heavens I didn't. Maybe someone has decided that blind people again need something basic. I have to say I love the Symbian Nokia phones. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 2:52 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind PeopleForgive me, but having read the article via the link Tom posted, is this not reinventing the wheel, or have I missed something? Why have a Smartphone touch-screen mobile for blind and visually impaired people with specific apps when you can already access either Apple or Android handsets? Hoping someone might clarify the point of having such a phone in addition to what is already out there. Kind Regards, Jackie Cairns -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tom Lorimer Sent: 14 July 2012 11:43 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People Hi Jeff, Try this link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18818279 Tom. ----- Original Message ----- From: jeff flint <mailto:jeffflint15@xxxxxxxxx> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 10:54 AM Subject: [access-uk] New Accessible Phone for Blind People My brother in Australia heard a report from England that a new mobile phone, with lots of bells an whistles, was launched last Thursday in London. Does anybody know anything about it? 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