[access-uk] Re: GW Connect and updating Skype client

  • From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 10:14:23 +0100

Hi,

Makes me glad I have Window-Eyes when I read this, simply use the mouse
cursor to find the toolbar you want to click.

All the best

Steve
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Paul Warner
Sent: 06 August 2014 09:23
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: GW Connect and updating Skype client

I'll cover NVDA object navigation in Revo Uninstaller below, but first I 
have to say that my success with updating Skype was temporary.  Using 
Revo to uninstall 6.10 did enable the latest Skype client to be 
installed and then run successfully but, after a reboot, I'm getting the 
same problem.

Although I definitely have the latest version on my system, the initial 
sign-in window believes I have the outdated version and immediately 
signs me out, inviting me to download and install the latest version.  
OK, there's probably something in the registry which hasn't been removed 
which is telling Skype falsely that it is out of date but Revo was 
supposed to have removed all trace of Skype from the registry - I set it 
to delete absolutely verything, all two and a half thousand items.  The 
result is that I can't use Skype on my system until I find out why Skype 
thinks it is out of date.

Now for navigating in Revo.  This is where vMouse will come in useful.  
Display the vMouse menu and choose the Navigation keys mode.  With Revo 
open, do the following:

1.  Press shift F5 twice to move the navigator object up the object tree.

2.  Press F7 until you hear NVDA say 'Toolbar'.

3.  Step into the toolbar by pressing shift F7.  This puts the navigator 
object on the first control inside the toolbar.

4.  Press F8 to turn on Mouse Tracks Objects mode.  NVDA won't announce 
the View button in its own mode.  Press F7 until you land on the View 
control.

5.  Press control F6 to activate the View button.  There's no menu and 
no audible confirmation but you should find that the application items 
are now listed in list view instead of in an icon grid.

6.  Return to 'Function keys' mode by selecting it in the vMouse menu.  
This returns the function keys to their normal use.

Hope this helps.

Paul


On 06/08/2014 08:08, Steve Nutt wrote:
> Hi Kevnin,
>
> No you have to do it by clicking the object in NVDA, because Revo is a
pile
> of crap where accessibility is concerned.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
>
> --
> Computer Room Services
> 77 Exeter Close
> Stevenage
> Hertfordshire
> SG1 4PW
> Tel: +44(0)1438-742286
> Mob: +44(0)7956-334938
> Fax: +44(0)1438-759589
> Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of
> Kevin Cussick
> Sent: 05 August 2014 21:27
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: GW Connect and updating Skype client
>
> OK will try,   do you just hit alt v and go to the what ever you said
> view? sorry forgot what you said to do but will read the mail again
> thanks.   I have been around computers for quite a while now and still
> learning thanks for the tip.
>
> On 05/08/2014 12:12, Doris &Hubby Chris wrote:
>> Revo will show all programs that are also listed in windows' native
>> add/remove program applet.
>>
>> Make sure you put revo in detail and not icon view.
>>
>> hth
>>
>> Doris
>>
>> At 06:30 AM 8/5/2014, you wrote:
>>> Interesting enough I am not happy with revo,   the reason is because
>>> it doesn't seem to show all the programs that are installed on my
>>> computer.
>>>
>>> I have 114 programs and it only shows something like 90!   when I go
>>> into programs and features all show up and they can be uninstalled
ideas?
>>>
>>> On 05/08/2014 06:11, Paul Warner wrote:
>>>> Glad to report that Revouninstall (freeware version) worked and that I
>>>> now have the latest version of Skype working on my system.
>>>>
>>>> I was aware that the main Skype client was accessible using NVDA as I
do
>>>> but I persisted in using GW Connect out of habit I suppose.  It's
always
>>>> better when the mainstream apps are fully accessible since they tend to
>>>> provide more features than the ghetto versions.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to all who helped.
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 04/08/2014 21:50, Steve Nutt wrote:
>>>>> Hi Paul,
>>>>>
>>>>> No, never seen this to be honest.  I retired GWC last week and am
using
>>>>> Skype with the Window-Eyes Skype Enhanced app with no problems.
>>>>>
>>>>> All the best
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Computer Room Services
>>>>> 77 Exeter Close
>>>>> Stevenage
>>>>> Hertfordshire
>>>>> SG1 4PW
>>>>> Tel: +44(0)1438-742286
>>>>> Mob: +44(0)7956-334938
>>>>> Fax: +44(0)1438-759589
>>>>> Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>> Paul Warner
>>>>> Sent: 04 August 2014 17:26
>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] GW Connect and updating Skype client
>>>>>
>>>>> Having heard that GW Connect is to be permanently 'disconnected' and
>>>>> killed off on account of Microsoft dropping the Skype API, I thought
it
>>>>> was about time to revert to the usual Skype application.
>>>>>
>>>>> The version of Skype I have on my Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
machine
>>>>> is 6.10.  When I ran it, a message popped up, saying that this version
>>>>> could no longer run and I needed to get the latest version of Skype.
A
>>>>> few steps later, I was running the Skype installer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then I got a message saying that the updating had been aborted since
my
>>>>> previous version could not be removed.  That was that.  After a
reboot,
>>>>> I tried to uninstall my existing version of Skype using Control Panel.
>>>>> A Windows error message reported that something or other did not match
>>>>> the stuff on my system.  Hitting the Browse button in this message box
>>>>> showed that the uninstall program was looking for a file called
>>>>> skype.msi.  A search for this file using the Start menu yielded no
>>>>> results.
>>>>>
>>>>> This now means that my existing Skype 6.10 will not run, it cannot be
>>>>> uninstalled and the new version cannot be installed since it requires
>>>>> the old one to go away.  Has anyone else experienced this?
>>>>>
>>>>> Note that I uninstalled GW Connect before attempting the Skype update.
>>>>> I hope that uninstalling GWC did not remove the required
information...
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul
>>>>>
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