[access-uk] Re: Can any experienced NVDA users please advise

  • From: Vincent Thacker <vince@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 12:52:10 +0100 (CET)

John, 

I'm using Windows 8.1, Firefox version 26 and NVDA version 2013.3.

I've just tried ebay.co.uk, and NVDA found the search edit box without my doing 
anything, put itself into edit mode and said "Enter your search keyword: edit". 
then if I press Tab, there's a combo box for the search category, and if I 
press Tab again, I find the search button. Pressing the button certainly led to 
results.

Maybe using Firefox or IE is the key to this, as Aedan suggested.

Other ways of finding your way through a page with shortcut keys include:-

h for next heading.
1,2,3,4,5,6 for next heading at level 1,2,3,4,5 or 6.
d for next ARIA landmark.
n for next text after a block of links.
NVDA key and down arrow to read on from where yu are.
Pressing Down key alone goes to the next line and so on. I don't think there is 
anything difficult about reading text with the arrow keys.
NVDA key plus b to read just about everything.

Capital letters get you to the last element, e.g., capital H takes you to the 
last heading.

NVDA key plus F7 gets you an element list that can list all the links, headings 
and landmarks on a page. Press enter on an element to go to it.

NVDA key means Insert or Caps Lock, depending on your settings.

Hope that's some use. 

Vince.






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Message Received: Jan 23 2014, 06:34 AM
From: "John Wilson" 
To: "Access UK" 
Cc: 
Subject: [access-uk] Can any experienced NVDA users please advise

Hello All,

I've just downloaded and started to use NVDA with Windows 
8.1 for the first time. The main problem I'm having is 
getting much of waht is on webpages read out to me.

I have read the user guide through which is provided for
NVDA but it doesn't help me with the below problem. It only 
seems to say that I should be able to both arrow and tab 
through WebPages and read everything on screen, which I 
certainly cannot do.

For example, I use Ebay regularly
and know what is (or should be) displayed on the screen and 
can be easily read with the arrow keys with JAWS. However, 
using NVDA, little or nothing can be read of the text on 
screen and only the various elements, e.g. links, 
editfields, etc, are ead
by pressing the TAB key.

Moreover, on Ebay, when I try to search for something, I am 
told by NVDA where the editbox is to type in the search 
string but when I do this and press ENTER nothing happens! I 
get no list of found items that can be read by NVDA. The 
same sort of thing happens on Google and other websites.


I have read the user guide through which is provided for
NVDA but it doesn't help me with the below problem. It only
seems to say that I should be able to both arrow and tab
through WebPages and read everything on screen, which I
certainly cannot do.

I have been a JAWS user for over 20 years and am well used
to computers and the internet. However, Having downloaded
the latest version of NVDA and tried to use WebPages with
it, I find myself baffled! For example, I use Ebay regularly
and know what is displayed on the screen and can be easily
read with the arrow keys with JAWS. Using NVDA, little or
nothing can be read of the text on screen and only the
various elements, e.g. links, editfields, etc, can be read
by pressing the TAB key.

Moreover, on Ebay, when I try to search for something, I am
told by NVDA where the editbox is to type in the search
string but when I do this and press ENTER nothing happens! I
get no list of found items that can be read by NVDA.

Please explain how NVDA is supposed to work on WebPages so
that all of the above information can be read and the
webpage therefore understood in its entirety.

I should also be grateful if you could point me to any
spoken video or MP3 tutorials on how to use NVDA with the
keyboard (not with a mouse), in particular in respect of the
Internet. I have searched Google and Youtube but found
little or nothing of any value. All I can find is people
having similar problems to me getting the text of WebPages
read out to them. Please listen to the below short Youtube
video demonstrating the very problems I am having.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZG3lwCzXb0

Hope you can help.

John Wilson.

Can anyone please explain how NVDA is supposed to work on 
WebPages so that all of the above-mentioned information can 
be read and the webpage therefore understood in its 
entirety.

I should also be grateful if you could point me to any
spoken video or MP3 tutorials on how to use NVDA with the 
keyboard (not with a mouse), in particular in respect of the 
Internet. I have searched Google and Youtube but found 
little or nothing of any real value. All I can find is 
people having similar problems to me getting the text of 
WebPages read out to them. Please listen to the below short 
Youtube video demonstrating the very problems I am having.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZG3lwCzXb0

Hope someone can help.

John Wilson.


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