[access-uk] Re: Can any experienced NVDA users please advise
- From: Vincent Thacker <vince@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 19:00:39 +0100 (CET)
John, already tried NVDA with IE for the first time in ages, and I have to say
I could hardly tell the difference from Firefox. NVDA did work fine.
If you are using the IE from the Win 8 start screen, it looks like Steve Nutt
had it right. Are you using the app or the proper IE? The apps on the desktop,
from the ones I've tried are a waste of space for screen reader users. If JAWS
does work with these, it must be using some sort of screen-scraping routine.
If it's any comfort, Firefox is not at all hard for someone who has used IE.
Chrome is more difficult, I'd say, but Firefox is pretty friendly.
Vince.
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Message Received: Jan 23 2014, 05:25 PM
From: "John Wilson"
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc:
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Can any experienced NVDA users please advise
Aeden,
Sorry, I thought that I had said what browser I am using but
I omitted this and only named the OS. I'm using the Internet
Explorer which ships with Windows 8.
Do you have any experience of trying to use NVDA with IE.
From what people are telling me it would seem that it may
work much more useably with Firefox but I can't for the life
of me think why they would not have also made it work
correctly with IE, since it's still the world's most used
browser--irrespective of what anybody may think of the
Microsoft Corporation.
Can you test NVDA for me with IE and let me know how it
works for you and perhaps Vince could also give it a try for
me and report the findings so that I can be clearer in my
mind as to where the problem lies.
John.
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From: "Aedan O'Meara"
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Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 10:10 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Can any experienced NVDA users
please advise
Hi John,
Are you using Google Chrome? I.E. or Firefox are better.
Aedan.
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
John Wilson
Sent: 23 January 2014 06:34
To: Access UK
Subject: [access-uk] Can any experienced NVDA users please
advise
Hello All,
I've just downloaded and started to use NVDA with Windows
8.1 for the first time. The main problem I'm having is
getting much of waht
is on webpages read out to me.
I have read the user guide through which is provided for
NVDA but it doesn't
help me with the below problem. It only seems to say that I
should be able
to both arrow and tab through WebPages and read everything
on screen, which
I certainly cannot do.
For example, I use Ebay regularly
and know what is (or should be) displayed on the screen and
can be easily
read with the arrow keys with JAWS. However, using NVDA,
little or nothing
can be read of the text on screen and only the various
elements, e.g. links,
editfields, etc, are ead by pressing the TAB key.
Moreover, on Ebay, when I try to search for something, I am
told by NVDA
where the editbox is to type in the search string but when I
do this and
press ENTER nothing happens! I get no list of found items
that can be read
by NVDA. The same sort of thing happens on Google and other
websites.
I have read the user guide through which is provided for
NVDA but it doesn't
help me with the below problem. It only seems to say that I
should be able
to both arrow and tab through WebPages and read everything
on screen, which
I certainly cannot do.
I have been a JAWS user for over 20 years and am well used
to computers and
the internet. However, Having downloaded the latest version
of NVDA and
tried to use WebPages with it, I find myself baffled! For
example, I use
Ebay regularly and know what is displayed on the screen and
can be easily
read with the arrow keys with JAWS. Using NVDA, little or
nothing can be
read of the text on screen and only the various elements,
e.g. links,
editfields, etc, can be read by pressing the TAB key.
Moreover, on Ebay, when I try to search for something, I am
told by NVDA
where the editbox is to type in the search string but when I
do this and
press ENTER nothing happens! I get no list of found items
that can be read
by NVDA.
Please explain how NVDA is supposed to work on WebPages so
that all of the
above information can be read and the webpage therefore
understood in its
entirety.
I should also be grateful if you could point me to any
spoken video or MP3
tutorials on how to use NVDA with the keyboard (not with a
mouse), in
particular in respect of the Internet. I have searched
Google and Youtube
but found little or nothing of any value. All I can find is
people having
similar problems to me getting the text of WebPages read out
to them. Please
listen to the below short Youtube video demonstrating the
very problems I am
having.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZG3lwCzXb0
Hope you can help.
John Wilson.
Can anyone please explain how NVDA is supposed to work on
WebPages so that
all of the above-mentioned information can be read and the
webpage therefore
understood in its entirety.
I should also be grateful if you could point me to any
spoken video or MP3
tutorials on how to use NVDA with the keyboard (not with a
mouse), in
particular in respect of the Internet. I have searched
Google and Youtube
but found little or nothing of any real value. All I can
find is people
having similar problems to me getting the text of WebPages
read out to them.
Please listen to the below short Youtube video demonstrating
the very
problems I am having.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZG3lwCzXb0
Hope someone can help.
John Wilson.
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