[access-uk] Re: Can any experienced NVDA users please advise
- From: "Amro Bilal" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 21:00:29 +0300
Hi John,
Windows 7 64bit, IE11 and Firefox v26 work perfectly with NVDA on here. The
last suggestion Steve sent sounds plausible IMHO.
Hope you get it sorted.
Amro
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
John Wilson
Sent: 23 January 2014 8:13 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Can any experienced NVDA users please advise
Hello Vince,
thanks for this. I'll try what you say but have already tried much of it in
IE 11 (or whatever version comes with Win 8) but most of it does not do
anything. In particular using the ARROW keys achieves nothing. If I still
get nothing next time, I'll just have to try it with Firefox but I was,
understandably, hoping to use it with software I already know rather than
have to embark on how to use a new browser as well as a new screenreader and
a new OS.
Interestingly, no one has replied to say that NVDA works for them with
Internet Explorer or vice versa. Perhaps someone could give me their
experiences with this browser so that I know if what I am getting is
universal or there may simply be something wrong with my set-up or software.
Thanks anyway.
John.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vincent Thacker" <vince@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 11:52 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Can any experienced NVDA users please advise
John,
I'm using Windows 8.1, Firefox version 26 and NVDA version 2013.3.
I've just tried ebay.co.uk, and NVDA found the search edit box without my
doing anything, put itself into edit mode and said "Enter your search
keyword: edit". then if I press Tab, there's a combo box for the search
category, and if I press Tab again, I find the search button. Pressing the
button certainly led to results.
Maybe using Firefox or IE is the key to this, as Aedan suggested.
Other ways of finding your way through a page with shortcut keys include:-
h for next heading.
1,2,3,4,5,6 for next heading at level 1,2,3,4,5 or 6.
d for next ARIA landmark.
n for next text after a block of links.
NVDA key and down arrow to read on from where yu are.
Pressing Down key alone goes to the next line and so on. I don't think there
is anything difficult about reading text with the arrow keys.
NVDA key plus b to read just about everything.
Capital letters get you to the last element, e.g., capital H takes you to
the last heading.
NVDA key plus F7 gets you an element list that can list all the links,
headings and landmarks on a page. Press enter on an element to go to it.
NVDA key means Insert or Caps Lock, depending on your settings.
Hope that's some use.
Vince.
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Message Received: Jan 23 2014, 06:34 AM
From: "John Wilson"
To: "Access UK"
Cc:
Subject: [access-uk] Can any experienced NVDA users please advise
Hello All,
I've just downloaded and started to use NVDA with Windows
8.1 for the first time. The main problem I'm having is getting much of waht
is on webpages read out to me.
I have read the user guide through which is provided for NVDA but it doesn't
help me with the below problem. It only seems to say that I should be able
to both arrow and tab through WebPages and read everything on screen, which
I certainly cannot do.
For example, I use Ebay regularly
and know what is (or should be) displayed on the screen and can be easily
read with the arrow keys with JAWS. However, using NVDA, little or nothing
can be read of the text on screen and only the various elements, e.g. links,
editfields, etc, are ead by pressing the TAB key.
Moreover, on Ebay, when I try to search for something, I am told by NVDA
where the editbox is to type in the search string but when I do this and
press ENTER nothing happens! I get no list of found items that can be read
by NVDA. The same sort of thing happens on Google and other websites.
I have read the user guide through which is provided for NVDA but it doesn't
help me with the below problem. It only seems to say that I should be able
to both arrow and tab through WebPages and read everything on screen, which
I certainly cannot do.
I have been a JAWS user for over 20 years and am well used to computers and
the internet. However, Having downloaded the latest version of NVDA and
tried to use WebPages with it, I find myself baffled! For example, I use
Ebay regularly and know what is displayed on the screen and can be easily
read with the arrow keys with JAWS. Using NVDA, little or nothing can be
read of the text on screen and only the various elements, e.g. links,
editfields, etc, can be read by pressing the TAB key.
Moreover, on Ebay, when I try to search for something, I am told by NVDA
where the editbox is to type in the search string but when I do this and
press ENTER nothing happens! I get no list of found items that can be read
by NVDA.
Please explain how NVDA is supposed to work on WebPages so that all of the
above information can be read and the webpage therefore understood in its
entirety.
I should also be grateful if you could point me to any spoken video or MP3
tutorials on how to use NVDA with the keyboard (not with a mouse), in
particular in respect of the Internet. I have searched Google and Youtube
but found little or nothing of any value. All I can find is people having
similar problems to me getting the text of WebPages read out to them. Please
listen to the below short Youtube video demonstrating the very problems I am
having.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZG3lwCzXb0
Hope you can help.
John Wilson.
Can anyone please explain how NVDA is supposed to work on WebPages so that
all of the above-mentioned information can be read and the webpage therefore
understood in its entirety.
I should also be grateful if you could point me to any spoken video or MP3
tutorials on how to use NVDA with the keyboard (not with a mouse), in
particular in respect of the Internet. I have searched Google and Youtube
but found little or nothing of any real value. All I can find is people
having similar problems to me getting the text of WebPages read out to them.
Please listen to the below short Youtube video demonstrating the very
problems I am having.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZG3lwCzXb0
Hope someone can help.
John Wilson.
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