Hi James, But Nokia phones do multitask. You can remain connected to your Email server while playing music for example. You can leave the web open and use Quick Office. You can't do any of that with an iPhone, as soon as you hit that magic Home button, the app you were using is closed and you are back on the home screen. You can't even task switch with the iPhone, but you can with the N86 and other 3rd gen Nokia phones. So accessibility aside, for the amount you pay for an iPhone, the spec is appalling. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of James & Nash Sent: Sunday 31 January 2010 12:13 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessibilty and the iPad: First Impressions | ATMac Hi Steve, The cost of the IPhone is certainly prohibitive, but to be fair, I haven't met a Nokia or other phone with Talks on yet that can multi-task. Remember, Nokia phones and the IPhone are not computers - they are phones that just happen to provide access to the internet - they are not computer replacements. So even though the idea of multi-tasking on a device like IPhone is appealing, if it never happens, it doesn't really matter - at least to me. I should also say that Grade 2 Braille is available as an option in the OS. However, people who want to install the OS in a language other than English have the option of using Grade 1. I don't know if you read French, but take it from me, it is not easy to read a foreign language in Grade 2 English Braille, especially when that language contains accents. Yes, a word with one accent would not pose a problem, but if you had a word with multiple accents, then it gets very confusing - but I'm getting off the point. Your comments about the marketing machine working well are well-made - Apple are extremely good at that - perhaps the best in the industry. They don't make a big deal of accessibility in their marketing, because they believe that it should be a given. In fact, since the early days, Mac OS has had accessibility. In terms of "tech specs", whilst it might appear that on the face of it, you could buy a more powerful laptop say with 4GB of RAM for less than you can buy a MacBook or Mac Mini, it is in fact misinformation. The only reason it seems faster is because of how Windows uses that RAM. Because it doesn't give the user complete access to the RAM, you need more to compensate for the resource needs of Windows. Mac OS X on the other hand is much smarter in the way it operates and gives the user complete access to the RAM. If you put a Mac and a PC side-by-side both with the same RAM you would soon see which was faster. Also, in terms of processor speed - the processors on Mac are more efficient even though they both use Intel. Finally, I'm sure you've noticed, that if you leave Windows running for an extended period of time (despite doing maintenance), the degradation in its performance is very noticeable. This is not true on Mac due I think to it's UNIX underpinnings. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Windows, I just think Mac is better and I will do everything I can to inform Blind and Visually Impaired people that their is an alternative to Microsoft. Also, it is nice to see Tony Sales from RNC pushing Linux, which is another alternative, but I can't really speak for all of its benefits as I've not spent much time with it although I can use it to some extent, and it is something that I am interested in learning more about. TC James, Lyn, Nash & Twinny ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq