[access-uk] Re: Accessibilty and the iPad: First Impressions | ATMac

  • From: william lomas <lomaswilliam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 15:50:36 +0000

please research before you post inaccurate information
1. grade 2 braille is on the mac
2. we can script now on the mac
3. we are able with windows, yes, to get free screenreaders and yes, windows is used in the work environment, so whethr a blind person needs windows for work or not, if they wish to use the mac at home they have the option to do so, if not, that's fine. It is good that a blind perosn has more choice now than say ten years ago

On 31 Jan 2010, at 07:56, Ibrahim Gucukoglu wrote:

Hi Lyn.

Hang on a second. You talk of over priced screen readers when you don't realize yet all they can do. Does voice over on the Mac or IPhone have scripting capability? NO! Do they have Braille support? no! (excepting grade one on the Mac). Also, you fail to take in to account the massive selection of screen readers on pc's. OK, jaws and window-eyes are the most common and at a higher price range, but System Access, NVDA and Narrator are either inexpensive or free, providing varying degrees of accessibility to windows and its applications. With the Mac and IPhone, you have the one screen reader take it or leave it, and to my mind if you've only one developer IE Apple who's primary concern isn't accessibility, you've got serious problems. FS and GW Micro spend hundreds of thousands of dollars and many man hours developing their products to meet the ever more growing and complex demands of their customers. Think what you like, but please don't fall over to promote apple and praise them as you would the lord just because they give you a built in screen reader.

All the best, Ibrahim.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyn & Twinny" <keanemaniac@xxxxxxxxx >
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessibilty and the iPad: First Impressions | ATMac


James & tony,
well said...no further comments to add after this. Hats off to Apple andI know here, more and more blind people are showing interest in Mac OSX and apple's built in accessibility.We have been ripped off all these years with overly priced products that very few of us can afford anyway if government agencies don't provide us with those products. FS, GW Micro and all these other companies that supposedly aim at making life easier for blind people should be ashamed of themselves. At last now, we have choice and as far as I am concerned, (and this is the case with more and more of us here) we are going to stop buying these overly prices screen readers. There are so many advantages to using the Mac and all of them have been listed in James and Tony's message so I won't write any further on this subject. but you guys said it all.

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