Fair point, Phil.
73 Mike
On 5 Nov 2015, at 04:53, Phil B <phil_m0ima@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
It's not drawn entirely from the video, Mike, but also from personal
experience.
73. Phil. M0IMA.
On 4 Nov 2015, at 22:59, MG Blueyonder <mike.granatt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
How can that conclusion be drawn from a five minute film,. It's not a 50
minute documentary And its designed to be part of a recruitment effort that
also involves talking to people and answering their questions. Perhaps
that's the bit that's not clear.
73 Mike
On 4 Nov 2015, at 22:31, Phil B <phil_m0ima@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
But they're not really enjoying the hobby are they? The video shows a
special case but suggests to the uninformed that it's a regular everyday
occurrence when it's not.
73. Phil. M0IMA.
On 4 Nov 2015, at 20:59, MG Blueyonder <mike.granatt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Sorry, Phil. With great respect it doesn't do that. It simply shows the
hobby being enjoyed by youngsters. Shocking, I know....
73. Mike
On 4 Nov 2015, at 19:58, Phil B <phil_m0ima@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The TARG net is on air through GB3DA at 20:00this evening, Kevin, see you
there?
The fact that you want younger operators on air doesn't excuse portraying
the hobbies age demographic in a false light, Mike
73. Phil. M0IMA.
On 4 Nov 2015, at 19:39, gladius650@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
If some full license holders were less arrogant towards foundation
license holders , we would have more confidence to go on the air also to
progress through the ranks. Also a fair amount of insulting our
intelligence because of us not obtaining our license via taking the R A
E. Because I can understand current flow, resistance and loading ect
through past work, apparently I am a cocky bastard. People need
educating.
M6LVK
Sent from my HTC
----- Reply message -----
From: "MG Blueyonder" <mike.granatt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <wkars-members@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [wkars-members] Re: RSGB DRM UPDATE
Date: Wed, Nov 4, 2015 7:01 PM
Oh come on you lot. The objective is to intrigue youngsters and
teenagers, not satisfy cynical old nit-pickers like us. While I don't
give the RSGB credit for much, they found a professional production
company to make the right video, at the right pace and length for the
target audience, and tested it with typical target groups to make sure
it worked. Of course, if you've got a better idea for attracting
youngsters to the hobby....
73. Mike M0RYK / F4VRD
On 4 Nov 2015, at 17:53, Phil B <phil_m0ima@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
A friend of mine has described it as "a production by The Children's
Television Workshop and was bought to you by the letters T, I and T and
the number 1!"
Glad it's not just me that felt it was completely off target....but
then I am old......
73. Phil. M0IMA.
On 4 Nov 2015, at 17:47, Mark Kent <mark.antony.kent@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Yeah, you’re right I’m sure. It does rather suggest, though, that
it’s a waste of effort. Anyone with an attention span of around 2
seconds[1] is unlikely to even manage a foundation licence, let alone
progress any further.
Note 1: 2 seconds is the duration of a typical shot ( id est, between
cuts) in yoof music videos… so for a 2 minute song, you need an
astonishing sequence of 60 shots!
Maybe you could explain a band plan in 2 second bites :-)
73 Mark G8PHM.
On 4 Nov 2015, at 17:41, Gordon Bubb <gordonbubb@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
They left off the age warning bit. Mark, you shouldn't have been
watching it at all as you are over 20 years old and have an attention
span of more than 2 seconds.
Given that the unstated target audience is obviously modern yoof I
though it was good but for anyone else it was a complete turn-off.
I could comment on the poor audio production with the radio station
pick-up in the background but I'm told it is meant to be like that.
CF modern "yoof" I guess.
gmb
On 4 November 2015 at 17:26, Mark Kent <mark.antony.kent@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Personally, I found it loathsome, well produced, but essentially
dreadful.
Still, it’s better than watching a fixed raffle.
On 4 Nov 2015, at 17:15, Phil B <phil_m0ima@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Keith,
the balance of the RSGB video is awful. It gives the impression of
a hobby populated by children and young to middle aged women.
Please don't misunderstand me as there'd be nothing wrong with that
if it were true, but it's not! I was also somewhat taken aback by
the probably unlicensed children using radios at what I think was
a JOTA event. It's great to see such enthusiasm, but where was the
supervision? Or, for that matter, an explanation that this was a
special exercise and that for normal operating a licence is
required?
I know and agree that it's important to attract more people into
amateur radio. I just don't think that distributing a false image
like this is going to help achieve that objective.
OGMS
73. Phil. M0IMA.
On 4 Nov 2015, at 16:20, keithlbird@xxxxxxx
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dear club colleagues, some items of news and information that I
hope will be of interest.
Amateur Radio - a 21st Century Hobby
A new video has been produced by the RSGB to introduce amateur
radio to young people.
This video has been made to show many facets of the hobby,
involving young people making contacts, building projects and
talking about what interests and excites them with the hobby.
It was first released at the recent RSGB convention and was
available for use by clubs during JOTA a few weeks ago. If you
have still not seen this video it can be viewed through YouTube
at; https://youtu.be/8x6x_6mDVlQ
World Radio Conference 2015
The latest WRC has begun in Geneva and runs until the 27th of
November. Working with Ofcom in the preparation and during the
conference is a critical part of the RSGB activity portfolio,
along with the other national societies in this ITU region to
safeguard the amateur band allocations, and expand on these where
possible.
The demand for radio spectrum from commercial business and the
communications industry at large continues to grow, with further
interest being shown in our 70cms allocations. As we often hear,
use it or loose it.
Background to the WRC-15 and regular updates from the conference
can be found on the RSGB website
http://rsgb.org/main/news/special-focus/wrc-15/
Ofcom Guidance Notes
This week, Ofcom released some guidance notes that they have
produced to help radio amateurs to understand, and ensure that
they comply with the terms and conditions of the amateur radio
licence that was revised earlier this year.
The guidance notes should be read in conjunction with your
licence, which is paramount. While the guidance has tried to
clarify the licence, it appears that in some respects it may have
added confusion that will need to be addressed in a later version
of the notes.
If you are looking for a copy of the current guidance notes, these
can be found at;
http://licensing.ofcom.org.uk/radiocommunication-licences/amateur-radio/licensing-updates/guidance-oct2015/
2m FM Activity Period
Members of the Thurrock Acorns Amateur Radio Club (G4HKO/GX4HKO)
have instigated a 2m FM activity periods, and the next one is
scheduled for Saturday the 28th of November starting at 13.00hrs.
Earlier this year they arranged a 2m activity afternoon which
proved to be a huge success with all those that took part. This is
not a competition and there is no prize, the afternoon is their to
encourage amateurs to operate/return to the 2m FM band.
Over the years the once very active 2m band has been over looked
by many and the idea of the event is to encourage people to
operate on 2m for that afternoon at least.
They are suggesting that stations remain active on the band until
at least 17.00hrs, though their is no reason to stop if you're
having good contacts on-air.
While the Thurrock Acorns ARC is in Essex the signals will no
doubt reach into Kent, and their is no reason why amateurs in Kent
shouldn't use the event to get more activity into our corner of
the South East.
More information from www.taarc.co.uk
RSGB Events Listing
May I remind you of the RSGB Events listing on the Societies
website, which is open to view by the wider amateur community, and
is available to help promote your club activities.
The listing may be of your regular club meetings or other special
events that may be of interest to others, and can be seen via the
RSGB website; https://thersgb.org/services/eventsplanner/
If any clubs have questions or face difficulties in listing their
events on this website do let me know..
Reduced Bandwidth TV.
I attended the RSGB Convention a few weeks ago, and was very
pleased to make the event this year, being my first time of
attending this annual event.
One of the presentations I attended was on the Reduced Bandwidth
TV mode, which appears to be making an impact on the additional
bandwidths amateurs have been granted in the UK.
While some may not be able to use the new frequencies for
transmitting, you might still be interested to know that RB-TV has
attained a level of interest, and you could at least investigate
receiving this new mode.
Their is more information on RB-TV in the latest ATV column of the
November edition of RadCom, along with some background on the
Titiioune software that is used by many for RB-TV.
Electronic Learning Bricks
A range of electronic learning bricks have been produced to
encourage and inspire young people, or anyone generally starting
out in electronics.
These are an exciting range of rugged electronic bricks that may
be used to build a vast range of circuits and projects, from
simple passive and active, to more advanced digital and Arduino
based, right through to higher level radio communications and RF.
Quantity discounts for the kits are available for UK radio and
electronics clubs. Further details from Dave Williams G8PUO Tel:
07870 074538 or email admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx
See the website for further details of the learning bricks at
www.ditronix.com
Club of the year
As a reminder, your club entry to the 'Club of the Year'
competition will need to be submitted early in the New Year, so
now is the time to look at the events and activities your club has
undertaken in the last year, and prepare to submit your entry.
The theme of this year’s RSGB Club of the Year competition is
Promoting Amateur Radio.
Details of the competition can be found at www.rsgb.org/coty.
Local Rallies
Kempton Rally - 8th Nov
This Sunday is the autumn Kempton rally, being held at the Kempton
Park Racecourse, Staines Road East, Sunbury on Thames, Middlesex
TW16 5AQ.
I plan to attend so I expect I might see many of you there. Doors
open at 10am and we will observe the two minutes silence at 11am.
Rainham Radio Rally - 28th Feb 2016
Mark this date in your diaries to attend if you can. I shall be
along at the RSGB table, selling books to support our national
society and sign up new members where we can. Do come over and say
hello and to support the RSGB by purchasing some merchandise or
joining up.
Dover Rally - 13th Mar 2016
This is another of our established local rallies in Kent, and I
hope that many of you will be able to support this rally.
The rally is held at the Whitfield Village Hall, Sandwich Rd,
Whitfield, Dover, CT16 3LY. Doors open at 10am and their is an
auction at 12.30pm before the doors then close at 1pm, when we
pack up and begin our journeys home.
The contact for any questions or book a table is Peter G0KOK, Tel:
07850 464026 or email peterjlove@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
I hope the above if useful to you and your members, if you have
anything for me to share with other amateurs across Kent please
get in touch.
73 Keith - G4JED
RSGB DRM - Kent
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