Are the kind of people who are likely to be interested in amateur radio those
who would find such a video interesting? I have very strong doubts about that.
Even if they were to, as per Phil’s point, it’s clearly not representative.
Focus on people who are interested in science, technology, maths, engineering…
if you can find people who already understand electronics, so much the better,
but it’s not essential.
Further, I’m all for foundation licensees, and see no reason why they should
progress beyond that point unless they want to, and again, I doubt a video like
this would make a lot of difference.
Personally, I think the video insults the intelligence of anyone likely to be
interested in the subject… but there we go.
Maybe I’m just a cynical old nit-picking git...
On 4 Nov 2015, at 20:12, Chris Pegrum <chris@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Evening all, second time writing this after my damn phone deleted it so this
is the very short version.
I agree with Mike and Kevin. The videos good to encourage the younger
generations.
Luckily I could route out the ones that look down or don't help. I managed to
get from foundation to full licence in less than a year (just).
We need elmers to help and ensure that every one plays a part in that. Maybe
like national service after you've got your full licence.
Aka the ARRL method.
Regards
Chris Pegrum
chris@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:chris@xxxxxxxxxx>
73 de M0NAY
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On 4 Nov 2015, at 19:38, gladius650@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
If some full license holders were less arrogant towards foundation license
holders , we would have more confidence to go on the air also to progress
through the ranks. Also a fair amount of insulting our intelligence because
of us not obtaining our license via taking the R A E. Because I can
understand current flow, resistance and loading ect through past work,
apparently I am a cocky bastard. People need educating.
M6LVK
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From: "MG Blueyonder" <mike.granatt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:mike.granatt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
To: <wkars-members@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:wkars-members@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Subject: [wkars-members] Re: RSGB DRM UPDATE
Date: Wed, Nov 4, 2015 7:01 PM
Oh come on you lot. The objective is to intrigue youngsters and teenagers,
not satisfy cynical old nit-pickers like us. While I don't give the RSGB
credit for much, they found a professional production company to make the
right video, at the right pace and length for the target audience, and
tested it with typical target groups to make sure it worked. Of course, if
you've got a better idea for attracting youngsters to the hobby....
73. Mike M0RYK / F4VRD
On 4 Nov 2015, at 17:53, Phil B <phil_m0ima@xxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:phil_m0ima@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
A friend of mine has described it as "a production by The Children's
Television Workshop and was bought to you by the letters T, I and T and the
number 1!"
Glad it's not just me that felt it was completely off target....but then I
am old......
73. Phil. M0IMA.
On 4 Nov 2015, at 17:47, Mark Kent <mark.antony.kent@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:mark.antony.kent@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Yeah, you’re right I’m sure. It does rather suggest, though, that it’s a
waste of effort. Anyone with an attention span of around 2 seconds[1] is
unlikely to even manage a foundation licence, let alone progress any
further.
Note 1: 2 seconds is the duration of a typical shot ( id est, between
cuts) in yoof music videos… so for a 2 minute song, you need an
astonishing sequence of 60 shots!
Maybe you could explain a band plan in 2 second bites :-)
73 Mark G8PHM.
On 4 Nov 2015, at 17:41, Gordon Bubb <gordonbubb@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:gordonbubb@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
They left off the age warning bit. Mark, you shouldn't have been watching
it at all as you are over 20 years old and have an attention span of more
than 2 seconds.
Given that the unstated target audience is obviously modern yoof I though
it was good but for anyone else it was a complete turn-off.
I could comment on the poor audio production with the radio station
pick-up in the background but I'm told it is meant to be like that. CF
modern "yoof" I guess.
gmb
On 4 November 2015 at 17:26, Mark Kent <mark.antony.kent@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:mark.antony.kent@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Personally, I found it loathsome, well produced, but essentially dreadful.
Still, it’s better than watching a fixed raffle.
On 4 Nov 2015, at 17:15, Phil B <phil_m0ima@xxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:phil_m0ima@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi Keith,
the balance of the RSGB video is awful. It gives the impression of a
hobby populated by children and young to middle aged women. Please don't
misunderstand me as there'd be nothing wrong with that if it were true,
but it's not! I was also somewhat taken aback by the probably unlicensed
children using radios at what I think was a JOTA event. It's great to
see such enthusiasm, but where was the supervision? Or, for that matter,
an explanation that this was a special exercise and that for normal
operating a licence is required?
I know and agree that it's important to attract more people into amateur
radio. I just don't think that distributing a false image like this is
going to help achieve that objective.
OGMS
73. Phil. M0IMA.
On 4 Nov 2015, at 16:20, keithlbird@xxxxxxx <mailto:keithlbird@xxxxxxx>
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Dear club colleagues, some items of news and information that I hope
will be of interest.
Amateur Radio - a 21st Century Hobby
A new video has been produced by the RSGB to introduce amateur radio to
young people.
This video has been made to show many facets of the hobby, involving
young people making contacts, building projects and talking about what
interests and excites them with the hobby.
It was first released at the recent RSGB convention and was available
for use by clubs during JOTA a few weeks ago. If you have still not
seen this video it can be viewed through YouTube at;
https://youtu.be/8x6x_6mDVlQ <https://youtu.be/8x6x_6mDVlQ>
World Radio Conference 2015
The latest WRC has begun in Geneva and runs until the 27th of November.
Working with Ofcom in the preparation and during the conference is a
critical part of the RSGB activity portfolio, along with the other
national societies in this ITU region to safeguard the amateur band
allocations, and expand on these where possible.
The demand for radio spectrum from commercial business and the
communications industry at large continues to grow, with further
interest being shown in our 70cms allocations. As we often hear, use it
or loose it.
Background to the WRC-15 and regular updates from the conference can be
found on the RSGB website
http://rsgb.org/main/news/special-focus/wrc-15/
<http://rsgb.org/main/news/special-focus/wrc-15/>
Ofcom Guidance Notes
This week, Ofcom released some guidance notes that they have produced
to help radio amateurs to understand, and ensure that they comply with
the terms and conditions of the amateur radio licence that was revised
earlier this year.
The guidance notes should be read in conjunction with your licence,
which is paramount. While the guidance has tried to clarify the
licence, it appears that in some respects it may have added confusion
that will need to be addressed in a later version of the notes.
If you are looking for a copy of the current guidance notes, these can
be found at;
http://licensing.ofcom.org.uk/radiocommunication-licences/amateur-radio/licensing-updates/guidance-oct2015/
<http://licensing.ofcom.org.uk/radiocommunication-licences/amateur-radio/licensing-updates/guidance-oct2015/>
2m FM Activity Period
Members of the Thurrock Acorns Amateur Radio Club (G4HKO/GX4HKO) have
instigated a 2m FM activity periods, and the next one is scheduled for
Saturday the 28th of November starting at 13.00hrs.
Earlier this year they arranged a 2m activity afternoon which proved to
be a huge success with all those that took part. This is not a
competition and there is no prize, the afternoon is their to encourage
amateurs to operate/return to the 2m FM band.
Over the years the once very active 2m band has been over looked by
many and the idea of the event is to encourage people to operate on 2m
for that afternoon at least.
They are suggesting that stations remain active on the band until at
least 17.00hrs, though their is no reason to stop if you're having good
contacts on-air.
While the Thurrock Acorns ARC is in Essex the signals will no doubt
reach into Kent, and their is no reason why amateurs in Kent shouldn't
use the event to get more activity into our corner of the South East.
More information from www.taarc.co.uk <http://www.taarc.co.uk/>
RSGB Events Listing
May I remind you of the RSGB Events listing on the Societies website,
which is open to view by the wider amateur community, and is available
to help promote your club activities.
The listing may be of your regular club meetings or other special
events that may be of interest to others, and can be seen via the RSGB
website; https://thersgb.org/services/eventsplanner/
<https://thersgb.org/services/eventsplanner/>
If any clubs have questions or face difficulties in listing their
events on this website do let me know..
Reduced Bandwidth TV.
I attended the RSGB Convention a few weeks ago, and was very pleased to
make the event this year, being my first time of attending this annual
event.
One of the presentations I attended was on the Reduced Bandwidth TV
mode, which appears to be making an impact on the additional bandwidths
amateurs have been granted in the UK.
While some may not be able to use the new frequencies for transmitting,
you might still be interested to know that RB-TV has attained a level
of interest, and you could at least investigate receiving this new
mode.
Their is more information on RB-TV in the latest ATV column of the
November edition of RadCom, along with some background on the Titiioune
software that is used by many for RB-TV.
Electronic Learning Bricks
A range of electronic learning bricks have been produced to encourage
and inspire young people, or anyone generally starting out in
electronics.
These are an exciting range of rugged electronic bricks that may be
used to build a vast range of circuits and projects, from simple
passive and active, to more advanced digital and Arduino based, right
through to higher level radio communications and RF.
Quantity discounts for the kits are available for UK radio and
electronics clubs. Further details from Dave Williams G8PUO Tel: 07870
074538 or email admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
See the website for further details of the learning bricks at
www.ditronix.com <http://www.ditronix.com/>
Club of the year
As a reminder, your club entry to the 'Club of the Year' competition
will need to be submitted early in the New Year, so now is the time to
look at the events and activities your club has undertaken in the last
year, and prepare to submit your entry.
The theme of this year’s RSGB Club of the Year competition is Promoting
Amateur Radio.
Details of the competition can be found at
<http://www.rsgb.org/coty>www.rsgb.org/coty <http://www.rsgb.org/coty>
<>.
Local Rallies
Kempton Rally - 8th Nov
This Sunday is the autumn Kempton rally, being held at the Kempton Park
Racecourse, Staines Road East, Sunbury on Thames, Middlesex TW16 5AQ.
I plan to attend so I expect I might see many of you there. Doors open
at 10am and we will observe the two minutes silence at 11am.
Rainham Radio Rally - 28th Feb 2016
Mark this date in your diaries to attend if you can. I shall be along
at the RSGB table, selling books to support our national society and
sign up new members where we can. Do come over and say hello and to
support the RSGB by purchasing some merchandise or joining up.
Dover Rally - 13th Mar 2016
This is another of our established local rallies in Kent, and I hope
that many of you will be able to support this rally.
The rally is held at the Whitfield Village Hall, Sandwich Rd,
Whitfield, Dover, CT16 3LY. Doors open at 10am and their is an auction
at 12.30pm before the doors then close at 1pm, when we pack up and
begin our journeys home.
The contact for any questions or book a table is Peter G0KOK, Tel:
07850 464026 or email peterjlove@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:peterjlove@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
I hope the above if useful to you and your members, if you have
anything for me to share with other amateurs across Kent please get in
touch.
73 Keith - G4JED
RSGB DRM - Kent
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