[Wittrs] Re: Strawson on Experience and Experiencers

  • From: "Cayuse" <z.z7@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <wittrsamr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 10:56:41 -0000

Since the group is unusually quiet of late, I hope I can be forgiven for making a contribution to what appears to be an off-topic discussion.


BruceD wrote:
What is the relationship between the experience and
the experiencer?

Joseph Polanik replied:
an experiencer experiences experiences?
an experiencer has experiences?

It will simply not do to argue that an experienceR exists by
virtue of the claim that it experienceS (or "has") experience -- this does not establish the existence of the putative experienceR.
If the putative experienceR experienceS (or "has") experience
(as though the experienceR and its experience were somehow
distinct), then what is it about the experienceR that permits
us to claim that it experienceS (or "has") this experience,
short of stamping one's foot and proclaiming "it just does!" ?

If the answer is "nothing" then the claim that the experienceR
experienceS the experience cannot be upheld.

If the answer is "something distinct from the experience"
then this "something" must be yet another experienceR,
and we fall into an infinite regress.

If the answer is "experience experienceS itself" then
experience would be constantly reflexive, which it is not.

Why might it be premature to conclude from the above that this
putative experienceR is a prime candidate for Occam's Razor?
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