[vipaudioaccess] Re: midi looper
- From: "Tim Burgess" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <vipaudioaccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 11:53:12 -0000
OK, got you now. No, I don't think you could do what you suggest, which is a
great shame. I remember being able to do this in Ce-Lab Notator back in the 80s
on an Atari ST, but have no idea why modern DAW applications don't seem to
offer the facility.
If I think of anything I'll let you know, as I'd be excited to find such a
beast myself.
Best wishes.
Tim Burgess
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:vipaudioaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jean-Philippe Rykiel
Sent: 16 March 2015 11:49
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Subject: [vipaudioaccess] Re: midi looper
Hmmm.
I'll experiment some more Tim, but I think I already found out that the matrix
view doesn't allow you to play something into it. You have to start by actually
recording something on a track, and then put the resulting clip into a matrix
view's cell, am I wrong?
so yes, you could make it a nice jamming tool, but you would still have to jam
with preprogrammed elements right?
Thanks for your help,
JPR
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Le 16/03/2015 12:36, Tim Burgess a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> I understand perfectly. I keep looking at the Native Instruments Machine, but
> haven't had the opportunity to try it out for accessibility. Having said
> this, you could load up a lot of Matrix View cells (88 if you've got a long
> enough controller keyboard), assign each note to a different cell then save
> the lot as a template. Once this had been set up it should be a good jamming
> tool, so a little time investment at the start might well pay off big-time
> later.
>
> Best wishes.
>
> Tim Burgess
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:vipaudioaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Jean-Philippe Rykiel
> Sent: 16 March 2015 11:06
> To: vipaudioaccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [vipaudioaccess] Re: midi looper
>
> dear Tim,
> sorry for not mentioning the matrix view myself. Of course, I knew about it.
> But it's much too Cerebral for me. I'm really looking for something
> spontaneous that allows improvisation, and that can be manipulated in real
> time.
> If you knew about all rhythm machines or hardware sequences, not step
> sequencers but things like Akai MPCs, well, I would like the software
> equivalent of this.
> Best regards,
> JPR
>
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> Le 16/03/2015 11:58, Tim Burgess a écrit :
>> I'm now kicking myself, as I should have suggested the Matrix View.
>> This gives you a grid where each cell in the grid can contain either
>> an audio or a MIDI clip. All cells in the same column can be
>> triggered to play at the same time, so you could have columns that
>> represent verses, choruses, breaks, etc., and/or individual cells (or
>> groups of
>> cells) can be triggered by mouse or MIDI message. Finally, you can
>> set latching modes for each cell that control how long it plays. For
>> example, you could set a MIDI cell to trigger on the next beat after
>> you press a note on your controller - it could then either play to
>> its end, to the end of the current measure or continuously until you
>> press your MIDI note again. The overall performance can be be
>> recorded to traditional tracks, if that's what you want. It takes a
>> bit of getting used to, especially for an aged traditionalist like me, but
>> it should do what you want with a bit of fiddling around and practise.
>>
>> Best wishes.
>>
>> Tim Burgess
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: vipaudioaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:vipaudioaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tim Burgess
>> Sent: 05 March 2015 21:40
>> To: vipaudioaccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [vipaudioaccess] Re: midi looper
>>
>> The nearest thing in Sonar is the Step Sequencer (don't get it
>> confused with the Step Record function). It's not great
>> accessibility-wise, but it can be made to work to some degree if you hit it
>> hard enough.
>>
>> Best wishes.
>>
>> Tim Burgess
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: vipaudioaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:vipaudioaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve S
>> Sent: 05 March 2015 18:30
>> To: vipaudioaccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [vipaudioaccess] Re: midi looper
>>
>> Jean Philippe, I don't know of anything, but wouldn't simply looping
>> a part of a track do? Until you got what you wanted? Best steve.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: vipaudioaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:vipaudioaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>> Jean-Philippe Rykiel
>> Sent: 04 March 2015 23:35
>> To: viplist
>> Subject: [vipaudioaccess] midi looper
>>
>> Hi all,
>> does anyone know of an accessible midi looper that one could insert
>> on a sonar midi track, and that would allow building MIDI loops
>> on-the-fly, a bit like old rhythm machines or hardware sequencers such as
>> the MPC 3000 ?
>> Best regards,
>> JPR
>>
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