[vipaudioaccess] Re: midi looper
- From: "Tim Burgess" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <vipaudioaccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 17:05:00 -0000
OK,
I've been told that Fruity Loops might do the job and I seem to remember
that somebody on MIDI-Mag had some success with it. It might be worth seeing
if they have a demo that you can download and try out. If this one function
was accessible enough to use you could do your initial composition using it
then export the MIDI for further production on something more accessible.
Best wishes.
Tim Burgess
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:vipaudioaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve S
Sent: 16 March 2015 12:57
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Subject: [vipaudioaccess] Re: midi looper
It shows nothing at all and any access that could be done would be very very
limited, best steve.
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:vipaudioaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tim Burgess
Sent: 16 March 2015 12:39
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Subject: [vipaudioaccess] Re: midi looper
That figures. I had an old version of Ableton, but don't have access to a
modern version to see what could be achieved in conjunction with
SurfaceReader or similar.
Best wishes.
Tim Burgess
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[mailto:vipaudioaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jean-Philippe
Rykiel
Sent: 16 March 2015 12:27
To: vipaudioaccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vipaudioaccess] Re: midi looper
Tim, I'll tell you which one does this and does this pretty well, it's
called Ableton Live.
it's actually been designed for this kind of purpose, and there are a few
control surfaces that could make it accessible, but not entirely. Steve?
Best regards,
JPR
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Le 16/03/2015 12:53, Tim Burgess a écrit :
> OK, got you now. No, I don't think you could do what you suggest,
> which is
a great shame. I remember being able to do this in Ce-Lab Notator back in
the 80s on an Atari ST, but have no idea why modern DAW applications don't
seem to offer the facility.
>
> If I think of anything I'll let you know, as I'd be excited to find
> such a
beast myself.
>
> Best wishes.
>
> Tim Burgess
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Jean-Philippe Rykiel
> Sent: 16 March 2015 11:49
> To: vipaudioaccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [vipaudioaccess] Re: midi looper
>
> Hmmm.
> I'll experiment some more Tim, but I think I already found out that
> the
matrix view doesn't allow you to play something into it. You have to start
by actually recording something on a track, and then put the resulting clip
into a matrix view's cell, am I wrong?
> so yes, you could make it a nice jamming tool, but you would still
> have to
jam with preprogrammed elements right?
> Thanks for your help,
> JPR
>
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> Le 16/03/2015 12:36, Tim Burgess a écrit :
>> Hi,
>>
>> I understand perfectly. I keep looking at the Native Instruments
>> Machine,
but haven't had the opportunity to try it out for accessibility. Having said
this, you could load up a lot of Matrix View cells (88 if you've got a long
enough controller keyboard), assign each note to a different cell then save
the lot as a template. Once this had been set up it should be a good jamming
tool, so a little time investment at the start might well pay off big-time
later.
>>
>> Best wishes.
>>
>> Tim Burgess
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> [mailto:vipaudioaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>> Jean-Philippe Rykiel
>> Sent: 16 March 2015 11:06
>> To: vipaudioaccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [vipaudioaccess] Re: midi looper
>>
>> dear Tim,
>> sorry for not mentioning the matrix view myself. Of course, I knew
>> about
it. But it's much too Cerebral for me. I'm really looking for something
spontaneous that allows improvisation, and that can be manipulated in real
time.
>> If you knew about all rhythm machines or hardware sequences, not step
sequencers but things like Akai MPCs, well, I would like the software
equivalent of this.
>> Best regards,
>> JPR
>>
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>>
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>> http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet
>> http://twitter.com/ryksounet
>> http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel
>>
>> http://www.jprykiel.com
>> http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet
>> http://twitter.com/ryksounet
>> http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel
>>
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>> http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet
>> http://twitter.com/ryksounet
>> http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel
>>
>> Le 16/03/2015 11:58, Tim Burgess a écrit :
>>> I'm now kicking myself, as I should have suggested the Matrix View.
>>> This gives you a grid where each cell in the grid can contain either
>>> an audio or a MIDI clip. All cells in the same column can be
>>> triggered to play at the same time, so you could have columns that
>>> represent verses, choruses, breaks, etc., and/or individual cells
>>> (or groups of
>>> cells) can be triggered by mouse or MIDI message. Finally, you can
>>> set latching modes for each cell that control how long it plays. For
>>> example, you could set a MIDI cell to trigger on the next beat after
>>> you press a note on your controller - it could then either play to
>>> its end, to the end of the current measure or continuously until you
>>> press your MIDI note again. The overall performance can be be
>>> recorded to traditional tracks, if that's what you want. It takes a
>>> bit of getting used to, especially for an aged traditionalist like
>>> me,
but it should do what you want with a bit of fiddling around and practise.
>>>
>>> Best wishes.
>>>
>>> Tim Burgess
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>> [mailto:vipaudioaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tim
>>> Burgess
>>> Sent: 05 March 2015 21:40
>>> To: vipaudioaccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [vipaudioaccess] Re: midi looper
>>>
>>> The nearest thing in Sonar is the Step Sequencer (don't get it
>>> confused with the Step Record function). It's not great
>>> accessibility-wise, but it can be made to work to some degree if you
>>> hit
it hard enough.
>>>
>>> Best wishes.
>>>
>>> Tim Burgess
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: vipaudioaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:vipaudioaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve S
>>> Sent: 05 March 2015 18:30
>>> To: vipaudioaccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [vipaudioaccess] Re: midi looper
>>>
>>> Jean Philippe, I don't know of anything, but wouldn't simply looping
>>> a part of a track do? Until you got what you wanted? Best steve.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: vipaudioaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:vipaudioaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>>> Jean-Philippe Rykiel
>>> Sent: 04 March 2015 23:35
>>> To: viplist
>>> Subject: [vipaudioaccess] midi looper
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> does anyone know of an accessible midi looper that one could insert
>>> on a sonar midi track, and that would allow building MIDI loops
>>> on-the-fly, a bit like old rhythm machines or hardware sequencers
>>> such
as the MPC 3000 ?
>>> Best regards,
>>> JPR
>>>
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