Hmmm.I'll experiment some more Tim, but I think I already found out that the matrix view doesn't allow you to play something into it. You have to start by actually recording something on a track, and then put the resulting clip into a matrix view's cell, am I wrong? so yes, you could make it a nice jamming tool, but you would still have to jam with preprogrammed elements right?
Thanks for your help, JPR http://www.jprykiel.com http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet http://twitter.com/ryksounet http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel http://www.jprykiel.com http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet http://twitter.com/ryksounet http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel Le 16/03/2015 12:36, Tim Burgess a écrit :
Hi, I understand perfectly. I keep looking at the Native Instruments Machine, but haven't had the opportunity to try it out for accessibility. Having said this, you could load up a lot of Matrix View cells (88 if you've got a long enough controller keyboard), assign each note to a different cell then save the lot as a template. Once this had been set up it should be a good jamming tool, so a little time investment at the start might well pay off big-time later. Best wishes. Tim Burgess -----Original Message----- From: vipaudioaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:vipaudioaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jean-Philippe Rykiel Sent: 16 March 2015 11:06 To: vipaudioaccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [vipaudioaccess] Re: midi looper dear Tim, sorry for not mentioning the matrix view myself. Of course, I knew about it. But it's much too Cerebral for me. I'm really looking for something spontaneous that allows improvisation, and that can be manipulated in real time. If you knew about all rhythm machines or hardware sequences, not step sequencers but things like Akai MPCs, well, I would like the software equivalent of this. Best regards, JPR http://www.jprykiel.com http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet http://twitter.com/ryksounet http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel http://www.jprykiel.com http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet http://twitter.com/ryksounet http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel http://www.jprykiel.com http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet http://twitter.com/ryksounet http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel http://www.jprykiel.com http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet http://twitter.com/ryksounet http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel Le 16/03/2015 11:58, Tim Burgess a écrit :I'm now kicking myself, as I should have suggested the Matrix View. This gives you a grid where each cell in the grid can contain either an audio or a MIDI clip. All cells in the same column can be triggered to play at the same time, so you could have columns that represent verses, choruses, breaks, etc., and/or individual cells (or groups of cells) can be triggered by mouse or MIDI message. Finally, you can set latching modes for each cell that control how long it plays. For example, you could set a MIDI cell to trigger on the next beat after you press a note on your controller - it could then either play to its end, to the end of the current measure or continuously until you press your MIDI note again. The overall performance can be be recorded to traditional tracks, if that's what you want. It takes a bit of getting used to, especially for an aged traditionalist like me, but it should do what you want with a bit of fiddling around and practise. Best wishes. Tim Burgess -----Original Message----- From: vipaudioaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:vipaudioaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tim Burgess Sent: 05 March 2015 21:40 To: vipaudioaccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [vipaudioaccess] Re: midi looper The nearest thing in Sonar is the Step Sequencer (don't get it confused with the Step Record function). It's not great accessibility-wise, but it can be made to work to some degree if you hit it hard enough. Best wishes. Tim Burgess -----Original Message----- From: vipaudioaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:vipaudioaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve S Sent: 05 March 2015 18:30 To: vipaudioaccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [vipaudioaccess] Re: midi looper Jean Philippe, I don't know of anything, but wouldn't simply looping a part of a track do? Until you got what you wanted? Best steve. -----Original Message----- From: vipaudioaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:vipaudioaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jean-Philippe Rykiel Sent: 04 March 2015 23:35 To: viplist Subject: [vipaudioaccess] midi looper Hi all, does anyone know of an accessible midi looper that one could insert on a sonar midi track, and that would allow building MIDI loops on-the-fly, a bit like old rhythm machines or hardware sequencers such as the MPC 3000 ? 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