[THIN] Re: Running Applications in Citrix vs Bare TS
- From: "Jeff Durbin" <techlists@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 13:00:14 +1200
Here's a great example of why: I'm looking at a cheap HP laser for a
customer - the Laserjet 1010. Look at the system requirements:
MIN SYS REQS: Operating system requirements as recommended by the operating
system vendor plus free hard disk space (140 MB for full
installation, 10 MB for print drivers only); CD-ROM disk
drive; USB, dedicated IEEE-1284 compliant bi-directional
parallel, or ECP-compliant parallel port
140 MB for full installation and 10MB just for drivers. Talk about
bloatware. 140MB. How could you *possibly* use 140MB of disk space just to
manage a printer?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bill Beckett
> Sent: Thursday, 1 April 2004 7:52 a.m.
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Running Applications in Citrix vs Bare TS
>
> We have had so many problems with HP color printers that we
> made all color HP's inaccessible from a Citrix box. HP has a
> long way to go with their drivers and compatibility with
> Citrix, no question.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Kenzig http://thin.net [mailto:jimkenz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday March 31, 2004 2:57 PM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Running Applications in Citrix vs Bare TS
>
>
> Don't know what world you are living in there Jeff but
> everytime we get a
> new model HP printer here put on a workstation on our network
> it is a living
> hell. Citrix servers start blue screening and rebooting etc
> etc. All because
> of a printer. JK
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Jeff Stockard
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 2:31 PM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Running Applications in Citrix vs Bare TS
>
>
> I haven't had a problem with an HP driver on Citrix since
> Carly Fiorino took
> over. HP did a big press release about her, which included her e-mail
> address. The address was posted on this list. Within the
> week, she had
> received hundreds of e-mails about HP drivers. Within 2 months, I had
> working HP drivers for any HP printer I had then or have used
> since. I still
> stay away from PCL drivers, because they are evil. Jeff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Shonk, Joe - Perot
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 2:15 PM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Running Applications in Citrix vs Bare TS
>
> You mean like HP, a multi-billion dollar international
> company that can't
> write print drivers?
>
> Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Durbin [mailto:techlists@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 12:08 PM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Running Applications in Citrix vs Bare TS
>
>
> Can you even believe that an app vendor would tell you that they don't
> support their app on Citrix/TS? When I hear that (and I've
> heard it a = =3D
> bunch of times over the years), it makes me feel like the
> vendor is just =3D
> ignorant. How can you ignore a technology that is so widely
> used? Ensuring
> that an =3D app runs properly under TS is trivial. I hope the market's
> natural selection process takes care of companies like that.=3D20
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> >[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Angus Macdonald
> > Sent: Thursday, 1 April 2004 2:03 a.m.
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: Running Applications in Citrix vs Bare TS =3D20
> > Not to the application, as far as I'm aware.
> > You're lucky to get McKesson to support Citrix. The UK branch=3D20
> > flatly refuses to have anything to do with TS or Citrix with us.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: J H [mailto:jeffrey_hicks@xxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: 31 March 2004 14:53
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Running Applications in Citrix vs Bare TS
> >=3D20
> >=3D20
> > We have a vendor ( McKesson ) who is telling us they will=3D20
> > support their application running in a Citrix environment but=3D20
> > will not support it in a bare Win2k3 Terminal Server environment.
> >=3D20
> > I know, I know, I should just keep my mouth shut and I'll=3D20
> > finally get the Citrix manageability, client flexibility and=3D20
> > maybe even the MSAM I dream about but money is tight for this=3D20
> > hospital.
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> > We serve up full desktops via Win2k3 TS, Session Directory=3D20
> > with TS Profiles.
> > At the point of the executable running on the server, does=3D20
> > Citrix offer anything over and above Terminal Services?
> >=3D20
> > thanks,
> > Jeff
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