Both Trend and McAfee with do that, up to certain versions of the competitors products. Not sure if Symantec does, never had to be in that situation. ________________________________ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Hill, Brian (NTB) Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 2:30 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Question for Trend A/V users That's funny. I also like how the Trend product will automatically uninstall McAfee if it's installed. LOL! It made the deployment fun and easy. :-) Brian ________________________________ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Fowler, Mathew Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 2:16 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Question for Trend A/V users At my previous employer, Trend came in touting their "MacAttack" program. This program allowed them to be competitive with McAfee across the board. You may want to ask your local rep. Mind you, this was spring of 2005 that I was told about it. ________________________________ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Hill, Brian (NTB) Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 1:12 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Question for Trend A/V users I was in a similar situation before. Our company headquarters (previous company) were located in the UK. They had purchased enough McAfee seats for the entire company, so we basically got McAfee for free. Even when getting the product for free, we couldn't make a business case to use McAfee, and still purchased Trend to replace it. I really can't find anything nice to say about the McAfee AV product. It's let us down too many times, and it doesn't even compare to Trend when it comes to performance, effectiveness, or manageability. Brian ________________________________ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Evan Mann Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 2:13 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Question for Trend A/V users I'm in a competitive upgrade situation, and McAfee is half the cost. For outright licenses, I'd assume it would be similar. The price levels only change by $1-2/seat at the 1001+ level. This is pricing from Insight McAfee ePO+VirusScan (no antispyware or exchange) - 501+ = 6.33/seat Trend OfficeScan Client/Server Edition (includes control manager basic, no damage cleanup) - 501+ = $12.24/seat Infact, for Trend OfficeScan Client/Server/Messaging (same as above, add Exchange product) it's $23/seat for 501+ and for less then that, $19.28/seat I can get McAfee ePO+VirusScan+Antispyware+Groupshield. I guess it's possible McAfee is just undercutting everyone drastically on a competitive upgrade price. ________________________________ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Kenzig Kenzig.com Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 2:08 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Question for Trend A/V users Trend is also far less expensive per user. Evan Mann <emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Trying to find out how people have deployed OfficeScan to a large office area network. I'm going to buy McAfee or Trend, so far McAfee is in my favor because of agent based methods I have 80 offices, 1200 users (alwyas expanding) with Symantec Enterprise A/V. They deploy as follows: 1 master server for everything, sub servers can be deployed at other sites so clients can pull updates from those servers, instead of across WAN links to the master server. Both Trend and McAfee seem to have similar approaches in setup. 1 master server with options for deployment poitns, which is basically a location the masrter server updates, then you set clients to those deployment points to get their updates. I do not want clients all updating to my master server for bandwidth issues. My trend SE recommended I pout an officescan server in every site, instead of 1 officescan server, with 80 deployment points. Some of the functionality of OfficeScan server requires MSDE and/orSQL, which I'm not deloying at every site. So when I got off the call with the SE, my interest in trend dwindled some. I've talked to 1 person on the list who has around 1200 users per server (said trend recommends 1000 max). He does all deployments from that 1 PC, so it's not exactly how I plan to operate, but it shows me the SE I spoke with at Trend's recommendation wasn't exactly necessary. I'm debating towards Trend or McAfee+ePO, and so far McAfee is on top becaue ePO is agent based which assists greatly in updating. ________________________________ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Foote, Eric Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 11:54 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Question for Trend A/V users We have over 8,000 users on the whole Trend Suite. Send me a note off list with any specific questions that you have. Eric -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Evan Mann Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 11:03 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] OT: Question for Trend A/V users Do any of the people on the list use Trend OfficeScan on client and/or server in a wide area deployment across many offices? I'm trying to get some real world info on large deployments.