As a European, buying Trend seems impossible. "Contact reseller", "reseller unavailable" No prize listings, etc. More searching.. found a "premium partner" with an actual "buy" link. Its going to nl.trend-micro.eu, click on purchase, back to locating a reseller... As a side-note, ye olde McAfee 4.5 still works like I want it. Its still updated with an auto ftp script, its deployed with an autologin script. Never had issues with it. Ah, and no subscription fees. I wont select McAfee again, since I hated the 5 and 6 products. But symantec? I guess I should try those again. For now im playing Norman antivirus, small, cheap. So far it works well with Exchange and TS'ses where we have it. On 9/13/05, Jim Kerr <jim@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > My personal favorites are Symantec and Trend. McAfee is garbage IMHO. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bray, Donovan (ESC) > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 7:58 PM > Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Question for Trend A/V users > > > I've had the same experience with McAfee, we then used CA that we had > licensed via Novell, then attempted a migration to Panda (what a joke), And > finally decided that it was worth the money and went with Symantec. > > CA's centralized management while it has it, isn't very good. Unicenter had > been tried and discarded, the only thing this employer had kept was the CA > AV. We are now deploying Landesk for workstation management and Symantec > Corp for AV. I've never had an opportunity to try Trend so I can't comment > on it, though I've heard some good things about it. > > ________________________________ > From: Steve Snyder [mailto:kwajalein@xxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 1:10 AM > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Question for Trend A/V users > > > We use McAfee on about 1600 desktops with epo - it's truly the most > pervasive virus I've ever seen. On the client it is a major cpu hog, causes > lots of apps to run funny including ica client v9 (greg can shed more light > on this), there's a known issue with crapping out the search function on > 2000/xp (maybe they'll fix it some day), in short, it chokes your PC into > lethargy just like a virus would. I'd dump it in a heartbeat for Symantec or > Trend if I was allowed to. I've heard reports that McAfee eats chldren too, > but I've yet to confirm those. > > I've always had decent luck deploying both trend and symantec - it's been a > couple of years since I've used them but back then Symantec gave you much > more granular control over the clients than Trend did. Both behaved well on > the client. Symentec was easier to push out, Trend had to be installed at > the desktop (remember, that was a couple of years ago, it may be different > now). > > As an alternative, some people like CA eTrust, but I've no clue as to what > the centralized management is like. Considering that they sell Unicenter, > you'd think that they have it covered. > > > On 9/10/05, Evan Mann <emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > wrote: > > > > That's probably why. SMB products are typically priced much cheaper, even > if they are the same exact thing. My prices are not for the SMB Suite. > > > > I'm surprised you can license an SMB product up in the 1000's of users.. > seems unusual. > > > > ________________________________ > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Jim Kenzig Kenzig.com > > Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 2:56 PM > > > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Question for Trend A/V users > > > > > > > > > > Trend SMB > > > > Evan Mann <emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > I'll check into it, but a quick internet search shows similar pricing to > what Insight gave me. Exactly what products were covered under $5/user? I > am not educational or government. > > > > Trend also told me there was a 5% price increase as of Sept 1. My prices > were given in August. > > > > ________________________________ > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Jim Kenzig Kenzig.com > > Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 2:22 PM > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Question for Trend A/V users > > > > > > > > Maybe there is a better break for education pricing but we got trend at $5 > a user and Mcaffee was charging $17 as of last year. Check with CDW (or > CDW-G) if you are governemt. Best to check with a different vendor. > > > > > > Evan Mann <emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > I'm in a competitive upgrade situation, and McAfee is half the cost. For > outright licenses, I'd assume it would be similar. The price levels only > change by $1-2/seat at the 1001+ level. This is pricing from Insight > > > > McAfee ePO+VirusScan (no antispyware or exchange) > - 501+ = 6.33/seat > > Trend OfficeScan Client/Server Edition (includes control manager basic, no > damage cleanup) - 501+ = $12.24/seat > > > > Infact, for Trend OfficeScan Client/Server/Messaging (same as above, add > Exchange product) it's $23/seat for 501+ and for less then that, $19.28/seat > I can get McAfee ePO+VirusScan+Antispyware+Groupshield. > > > > I guess it's possible McAfee is just undercutting everyone drastically on > a competitive upgrade price. > > > > ________________________________ > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Jim Kenzig Kenzig.com > > Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 2:08 PM > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Question for Trend A/V users > > > > > > > > Trend is also far less expensive per user. > > > > Evan Mann <emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Trying to find out how people have deployed OfficeScan to a large office > area network. I'm going to buy McAfee or Trend, so far McAfee is in my > favor because of agent based methods I have 80 offices, 1200 users (alwyas > expanding) with Symantec Enterprise A/V. They deploy as follows: 1 master > server for everything, sub servers can be deployed at other sites so clients > can pull updates from those servers, instead of across WAN links to the > master server. > > > > Both Trend and McAfee seem to have similar approaches in setup. 1 master > server with options for deployment poitns, which is basically a location the > masrter server updates, then you set clients to those deployment points to > get their updates. I do not want clients all updating to my master server > for bandwidth issues. > > > > My trend SE recommended I pout an officescan server in every site, instead > of 1 officescan server, with 80 deployment points. Some of the > functionality of OfficeScan server requires MSDE and/orSQL, which I'm not > deloying at every site. So when I got off the call with the SE, my interest > in trend dwindled some. > > > > I've talked to 1 person on the list who has around 1200 users per server > (said trend recommends 1000 max). He does all deployments from that 1 PC, > so it's not exactly how I plan to operate, but it shows me the SE I spoke > with at Trend's recommendation wasn't exactly necessary. > > > > I'm debating towards Trend or McAfee+ePO, and so far McAfee is on top > becaue ePO is agent based which assists greatly in updating. > > ________________________________ > > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Foote, Eric > > Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 11:54 AM > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Question for Trend A/V users > > > > > > > > We have over 8,000 users on the whole Trend Suite. > > > > Send me a note off list with any specific questions that you have. > > > > Eric > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On > Behalf Of Evan Mann > > Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 11:03 AM > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [THIN] OT: Question for Trend A/V users > > > > > > > > Do any of the people on the list use Trend OfficeScan on client and/or > server in a wide area deployment across many offices? I'm trying to get > some real world info on large deployments. > > ******************************************************** This Weeks Sponsor: triCerat Inc. You need Day Zero Protection! Get Proactive with triCerat's Simplify Suite. Solve printing, security and profile problems before they occur. http://www.tricerat.com/?thethintl2 ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thin.net/links.cfm ThinWiki community - Excellent SBC Search Capabilities! http://www.thinwiki.com *********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thin.net/citrixlist.cfm