[THIN] Re: OT: Question for Trend A/V users

  • From: "Evan Mann" <emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 14:57:05 -0400

That's probably why.  SMB products are typically priced much cheaper,
even if they are the same exact thing.  My prices are not for the SMB
Suite.
 
I'm surprised you can license an SMB product up in the 1000's of users..
seems unusual.

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jim Kenzig Kenzig.com
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 2:56 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Question for Trend A/V users


Trend SMB

Evan Mann <emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 

        I'll check into it, but a quick internet search shows similar
pricing to what Insight gave me. Exactly what products were covered
under $5/user?  I am not educational or government.
         
        Trend also told me there was a 5% price increase as of Sept 1.
My prices were given in August.
        
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        From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Kenzig Kenzig.com
        Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 2:22 PM
        To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Question for Trend A/V users
        
        
        Maybe there is a better break for education pricing but we got
trend at $5 a user and Mcaffee was charging $17 as of last year.  Check
with CDW (or CDW-G) if you are governemt.  Best to check with a
different vendor.


        Evan Mann <emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

                I'm in a competitive upgrade situation, and McAfee is
half the cost.  For outright licenses, I'd assume it would be similar.
The price levels only change by $1-2/seat at the 1001+ level.  This is
pricing from Insight
                 
                McAfee ePO+VirusScan (no antispyware or exchange) - 501+
= 6.33/seat
                Trend OfficeScan Client/Server Edition (includes control
manager basic, no damage cleanup) - 501+ = $12.24/seat
                
                
                Infact, for Trend OfficeScan Client/Server/Messaging
(same as above, add Exchange product) it's $23/seat for 501+ and for
less then that, $19.28/seat I can get McAfee
ePO+VirusScan+Antispyware+Groupshield.
                

                I guess it's possible McAfee is just undercutting
everyone drastically on a competitive upgrade price.
                 
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                From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Kenzig Kenzig.com
                Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 2:08 PM
                To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Question for Trend A/V users
                
                
                Trend is also far less expensive per user.
                
                Evan Mann <emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 

                        Trying to find out how people have deployed
OfficeScan to a large office area network.  I'm going to buy McAfee or
Trend, so far McAfee is in my favor because of agent based methods  I
have 80 offices, 1200 users (alwyas expanding) with Symantec Enterprise
A/V.  They deploy as follows: 1 master server for everything, sub
servers can be deployed at other sites so clients can pull updates from
those servers, instead of across WAN links to the master server.
                        

                        Both Trend and McAfee seem to have similar
approaches in setup. 1  master server with options for deployment
poitns, which is basically a location the masrter server updates, then
you set clients to those deployment points to get their updates.  I do
not want clients all updating to my master server for bandwidth issues.
                         
                        My trend SE recommended I pout an officescan
server in every site, instead of 1 officescan server, with 80 deployment
points.  Some of the functionality of OfficeScan server requires MSDE
and/orSQL, which I'm not deloying at every site.  So when I got off the
call with the SE, my interest in trend dwindled some.
                        

                        I've talked to 1 person on the list who has
around 1200 users per server (said trend recommends 1000 max).  He does
all deployments from that 1 PC, so it's not exactly how I plan to
operate, but it shows me the SE I spoke with at Trend's recommendation
wasn't exactly necessary.
                         
                        I'm debating towards Trend or McAfee+ePO, and so
far McAfee is on top becaue ePO is agent based which assists greatly in
updating.
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                        From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Foote, Eric
                        Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 11:54 AM
                        To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                        Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Question for Trend A/V
users
                        
                        
                        We have over 8,000 users on the whole Trend
Suite.
                         
                        Send me a note off list with any specific
questions that you have.
                         
                        Eric

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                                From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Evan Mann
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AM
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                                Do any of the people on the list use
Trend OfficeScan on client and/or server in a wide area deployment
across many offices?  I'm trying to get some real world info on large
deployments.  

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