[THIN] Re: OT: Anti-Virus Vendors (AGAIN)
- From: "Chris Lynch" <lynch00@xxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 14:38:37 -0800
You say that now, after I turned you on to it. :)
Chris Lynch
lynch00@xxxxxxx
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Jeff Durbin
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 1:25 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Anti-Virus Vendors (AGAIN)
Thanks to everyone who responded to my original post. I've learned that
Symantec does update, but you have to get the files manually, and the
scripts to do it have been posted. I also appreciate the opinions about
which AV software people prefer. This is a great list!
JD
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Jim Kerr
Sent: Friday, 13 February 2004 6:54 a.m.
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Anti-Virus Vendors (AGAIN)
Nav does update every day. If there is a threat they will issue updates
immediately. For example when MyDoom was on the way I already had my
machine updated and it wasn't on a Wednesday. The following day yet another
update was available so my system downloaded it and installed it.
With that being said I have to say that Symantec AV Corporate has never
given me any problems on desktop machines. In the TS world I have to agree
with the other folks and say Trend is the way to go. This is just my
opinion. Feel free to throw it in your deleted items folder. :)
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From: "Evan Mann" <emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 8:19 AM
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Anti-Virus Vendors (AGAIN)
For as long as I can remember, Symantec has put out LiveUpdate definitions
ONLY on WEDNESDAY's. This is on their website.
They ONLY release a LiveUpdate version when there is a MAJOR virus outbrake,
such as MyDoom, and previous viruses such as Nimda.
However, EVERY DAY they put out an intelligent updater with revised
Definitions as necessary. This is available via FTP. Symantec has a few
sample scripts to download this, but it's just a text file and a .bat file
which has FTP.EXE call the text file to run unattended.
Anyone can write their own script. I don't recall the time they release it,
but it is always published at the same time each day.
I think Symantec should build an automatic download of the Inteligent
Updater into the Corporate/Enterprise products, because these environments
should be updated daily and not have to wait for the Wed update or a major
outbreak, but until they do that, all you have to do is schedule the FTP
download with AT on your parent server(s) and it will push down to every
sub-server and client.
So anyways, Symantec DOES have an update every day, you just have to
schedule to get it yourself. DO NOT rely on LiveUpdate. Most admins who
have used NAV CE/Enterprise over the years know about this and have know
about this, and they are getting daily updated.
And FWIW, SAV 8.1 Corp/Enterprise work just fine on Win2003, and have since
Win2003 came out, and since 8.1 came out, which was prior to the gold
release of 2003 Server.
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Chris Lynch
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 10:32 PM
To: lynch00@xxxxxxx; thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Anti-Virus Vendors (AGAIN)
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While this is true, I have found the same case. It seems as if the quality
of Symantec's AV products are becoming more and more useless. I have
permanently made the switch to Trend Micro AV products (which I was a big
proponent of Symantec AV products). I just finished moving a friends
network from SAV 8.0 CE to Trend Micro OfficeScan/ServerProtect/ScanMail,
all controlled from the Trend Micro Control Manager. A very nice tool.
All access via HTTP. Reporting is SO much better than SAV. Version 3.0 of
TMCM is supposed to be so much better, and better reporting capabilities,
and work on Windows Server 2003 (to be released Feb 16).
Chris Lynch
lynch00@xxxxxxx=20
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Lennart Koschella
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 4:15 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Anti-Virus Vendors (AGAIN)
techlists@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>I'm telling this just to throw the information out there. What I'm
>concerned about though, is the dates on the virus defs. I scanned
>them=20 on the 9th, and the virus defs were dated the 4th. Aren't there
>new=20 viruses produced every day? If so, wouldn't you want a vendor
>that=20 updates every day? Anyone else seen these problems with NAV?
There is a LiveUpdate from 9 February, but we have the same concerns
here.=20 However, Symantec offers two update mechanisms: "LiveUpdate" and
"Intelligent Updater". They write on their website: "LiveUpdate definitions
are updated weekly, except for major outbreaks, when definitions are updated
more often [...] Intelligent Updater is updated daily during the work week."
(look at
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/sharedtech.nsf/docid/20020219083827
13?O
penDocument&src=3Dsec_web_nam)
With kind regards,
Lennart Koschella
System Adminstrator
University Hospital Tuebingen/Germany
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