[THIN] Re: OT: Anti-Virus Vendors (AGAIN)
- From: "Jim Kerr" <jim@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 12:54:29 -0500
Nav does update every day. If there is a threat they will issue updates
immediately. For example when MyDoom was on the way I already had my
machine updated and it wasn't on a Wednesday. The following day yet another
update was available so my system downloaded it and installed it.
With that being said I have to say that Symantec AV Corporate has never
given me any problems on desktop machines. In the TS world I have to agree
with the other folks and say Trend is the way to go. This is just my
opinion. Feel free to throw it in your deleted items folder. :)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Evan Mann" <emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 8:19 AM
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Anti-Virus Vendors (AGAIN)
For as long as I can remember, Symantec has put out LiveUpdate
definitions ONLY on WEDNESDAY's. This is on their website.
They ONLY release a LiveUpdate version when there is a MAJOR virus
outbrake, such as MyDoom, and previous viruses such as Nimda.
However, EVERY DAY they put out an intelligent updater with revised
Definitions as necessary. This is available via FTP. Symantec has a
few sample scripts to download this, but it's just a text file and a
.bat file which has FTP.EXE call the text file to run unattended.
Anyone can write their own script. I don't recall the time they release
it, but it is always published at the same time each day.
I think Symantec should build an automatic download of the Inteligent
Updater into the Corporate/Enterprise products, because these
environments should be updated daily and not have to wait for the Wed
update or a major outbreak, but until they do that, all you have to do
is schedule the FTP download with AT on your parent server(s) and it
will push down to every sub-server and client.
So anyways, Symantec DOES have an update every day, you just have to
schedule to get it yourself. DO NOT rely on LiveUpdate. Most admins
who have used NAV CE/Enterprise over the years know about this and have
know about this, and they are getting daily updated.
And FWIW, SAV 8.1 Corp/Enterprise work just fine on Win2003, and have
since Win2003 came out, and since 8.1 came out, which was prior to the
gold release of 2003 Server.
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Chris Lynch
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 10:32 PM
To: lynch00@xxxxxxx; thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Anti-Virus Vendors (AGAIN)
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While this is true, I have found the same case. It seems as if the
quality of Symantec's AV products are becoming more and more useless. I
have permanently made the switch to Trend Micro AV products (which I was
a big proponent of Symantec AV products). I just finished moving a
friends network from SAV 8.0 CE to Trend Micro
OfficeScan/ServerProtect/ScanMail,
all controlled from the Trend Micro Control Manager. A very nice tool.
All access via HTTP. Reporting is SO much better than SAV. Version 3.0
of TMCM is supposed to be so much better, and better reporting
capabilities, and work on Windows Server 2003 (to be released Feb 16).
Chris Lynch
lynch00@xxxxxxx=20
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Lennart Koschella
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 4:15 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Anti-Virus Vendors (AGAIN)
techlists@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>I'm telling this just to throw the information out there. What I'm
>concerned about though, is the dates on the virus defs. I scanned them=20
>on the 9th, and the virus defs were dated the 4th. Aren't there new=20
>viruses produced every day? If so, wouldn't you want a vendor that=20
>updates every day? Anyone else seen these problems with NAV?
There is a LiveUpdate from 9 February, but we have the same concerns
here.=20
However, Symantec offers two update mechanisms: "LiveUpdate" and
"Intelligent Updater". They write on their website: "LiveUpdate
definitions are updated weekly, except for major outbreaks, when
definitions are updated more often [...] Intelligent Updater is updated
daily during the work week." (look at
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/sharedtech.nsf/docid/20020219083827
13?O
penDocument&src=3Dsec_web_nam)
With kind regards,
Lennart Koschella
System Adminstrator
University Hospital Tuebingen/Germany
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